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The result was keep. Eddie891 Talk Work 19:07, 20 September 2020 (UTC) reply

Gary L Kreps

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Appears to be mostly created by the individual concerned; only has one link to it from a list article; Google returns little in secondary sources. Resume form. Laterthanyouthink ( talk) 13:36, 13 September 2020 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Laterthanyouthink ( talk) 13:36, 13 September 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. There is an WP:AUTOBIO problem here, some of the unsourced evaluation of his research accomplishments needs to go, and the long listing of publications is indiscriminate, but it can all be dealt with by cleanup. Article appears to easily pass both WP:PROF#C1 (heavy citations on Google Scholar [1]) and #C5 (distinguished professor and earlier endowed chair). — David Eppstein ( talk) 17:29, 13 September 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep under WP:PROF. Lots of cites, plus holder of a named chair. WP:DINC. - Kj cheetham ( talk) 20:26, 13 September 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep I went through and seriously pruned the article, cutting out the indiscriminate listing of publications, the unsourced evaluations of his accomplishments, etc. I think what's left is a reasonable stub, and as argued above, WP:PROF is passed. XOR'easter ( talk) 20:39, 13 September 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Thanks to XOR'easter for trimming the article. The subject certainly passes WP:PROF on ceveral counts, including WP:PROF#C1 and WP:PROF#C5, as Distingwished Professor and a holder of and Endowed Chair. The WP:AUTOBIO issue occured too long ago to matter now: the article was created (presumably by the subject) back in 2007, but it had been substantially edited by many other users since then. Nsk92 ( talk) 21:35, 13 September 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete If we do not universally enforce our rules against autobiographies they will have no teeth. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 19:05, 18 September 2020 (UTC) reply
    • Our current rule, the policy WP:AUTO, does not prohibit autobiographies, but only strongly discourages them. It does not mandate deleting autobiographies that were created in violation of the policy either, not if the subject is unquestionably notable and the other issues had been addressed. Instead, the WP:YOURSELF section of the policy says: "Anything you submit will be edited mercilessly to make it neutral." That's exactly what happened here. The article has been stubbified to just a few short paragraphs and all the fluff and promotional info have been removed. Perhaps the WP:AUTO policy as it exists today is too lenient and needs to be tightened, to give it, as you put it, more teeth. But that's a different story and a conversation that would need to be conducted in a different venue. Nsk92 ( talk) 23:51, 19 September 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment. Consensus seems to be keep, so closer or someone else should probably move to Gary Kreps, as it's not taken and there's no obvious need for the "L". AleatoryPonderings ( talk) 00:59, 20 September 2020 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Eddie891 Talk Work 19:07, 20 September 2020 (UTC) reply

Gary L Kreps

Gary L Kreps (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Appears to be mostly created by the individual concerned; only has one link to it from a list article; Google returns little in secondary sources. Resume form. Laterthanyouthink ( talk) 13:36, 13 September 2020 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Laterthanyouthink ( talk) 13:36, 13 September 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. There is an WP:AUTOBIO problem here, some of the unsourced evaluation of his research accomplishments needs to go, and the long listing of publications is indiscriminate, but it can all be dealt with by cleanup. Article appears to easily pass both WP:PROF#C1 (heavy citations on Google Scholar [1]) and #C5 (distinguished professor and earlier endowed chair). — David Eppstein ( talk) 17:29, 13 September 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep under WP:PROF. Lots of cites, plus holder of a named chair. WP:DINC. - Kj cheetham ( talk) 20:26, 13 September 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep I went through and seriously pruned the article, cutting out the indiscriminate listing of publications, the unsourced evaluations of his accomplishments, etc. I think what's left is a reasonable stub, and as argued above, WP:PROF is passed. XOR'easter ( talk) 20:39, 13 September 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Thanks to XOR'easter for trimming the article. The subject certainly passes WP:PROF on ceveral counts, including WP:PROF#C1 and WP:PROF#C5, as Distingwished Professor and a holder of and Endowed Chair. The WP:AUTOBIO issue occured too long ago to matter now: the article was created (presumably by the subject) back in 2007, but it had been substantially edited by many other users since then. Nsk92 ( talk) 21:35, 13 September 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete If we do not universally enforce our rules against autobiographies they will have no teeth. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 19:05, 18 September 2020 (UTC) reply
    • Our current rule, the policy WP:AUTO, does not prohibit autobiographies, but only strongly discourages them. It does not mandate deleting autobiographies that were created in violation of the policy either, not if the subject is unquestionably notable and the other issues had been addressed. Instead, the WP:YOURSELF section of the policy says: "Anything you submit will be edited mercilessly to make it neutral." That's exactly what happened here. The article has been stubbified to just a few short paragraphs and all the fluff and promotional info have been removed. Perhaps the WP:AUTO policy as it exists today is too lenient and needs to be tightened, to give it, as you put it, more teeth. But that's a different story and a conversation that would need to be conducted in a different venue. Nsk92 ( talk) 23:51, 19 September 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment. Consensus seems to be keep, so closer or someone else should probably move to Gary Kreps, as it's not taken and there's no obvious need for the "L". AleatoryPonderings ( talk) 00:59, 20 September 2020 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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