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Keep. There is an
WP:AUTOBIO problem here, some of the unsourced evaluation of his research accomplishments needs to go, and the long listing of publications is indiscriminate, but it can all be dealt with by cleanup. Article appears to easily pass both
WP:PROF#C1 (heavy citations on Google Scholar
[1]) and #C5 (distinguished professor and earlier endowed chair). —
David Eppstein (
talk)
17:29, 13 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep I went through and seriously pruned the article, cutting out the indiscriminate listing of publications, the unsourced evaluations of his accomplishments, etc. I think what's left is a reasonable stub, and as argued above,
WP:PROF is passed.
XOR'easter (
talk)
20:39, 13 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep. Thanks to XOR'easter for trimming the article. The subject certainly passes
WP:PROF on ceveral counts, including
WP:PROF#C1 and
WP:PROF#C5, as Distingwished Professor and a holder of and Endowed Chair. The
WP:AUTOBIO issue occured too long ago to matter now: the article was created (presumably by the subject) back in 2007, but it had been substantially edited by many other users since then.
Nsk92 (
talk)
21:35, 13 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Our current rule, the policy
WP:AUTO, does not prohibit autobiographies, but only strongly discourages them. It does not mandate deleting autobiographies that were created in violation of the policy either, not if the subject is unquestionably notable and the other issues had been addressed. Instead, the
WP:YOURSELF section of the policy says: "Anything you submit will be edited mercilessly to make it neutral." That's exactly what happened here. The article has been stubbified to just a few short paragraphs and all the fluff and promotional info have been removed. Perhaps the
WP:AUTO policy as it exists today is too lenient and needs to be tightened, to give it, as you put it, more teeth. But that's a different story and a conversation that would need to be conducted in a different venue.
Nsk92 (
talk)
23:51, 19 September 2020 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Keep. There is an
WP:AUTOBIO problem here, some of the unsourced evaluation of his research accomplishments needs to go, and the long listing of publications is indiscriminate, but it can all be dealt with by cleanup. Article appears to easily pass both
WP:PROF#C1 (heavy citations on Google Scholar
[1]) and #C5 (distinguished professor and earlier endowed chair). —
David Eppstein (
talk)
17:29, 13 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep I went through and seriously pruned the article, cutting out the indiscriminate listing of publications, the unsourced evaluations of his accomplishments, etc. I think what's left is a reasonable stub, and as argued above,
WP:PROF is passed.
XOR'easter (
talk)
20:39, 13 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep. Thanks to XOR'easter for trimming the article. The subject certainly passes
WP:PROF on ceveral counts, including
WP:PROF#C1 and
WP:PROF#C5, as Distingwished Professor and a holder of and Endowed Chair. The
WP:AUTOBIO issue occured too long ago to matter now: the article was created (presumably by the subject) back in 2007, but it had been substantially edited by many other users since then.
Nsk92 (
talk)
21:35, 13 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Our current rule, the policy
WP:AUTO, does not prohibit autobiographies, but only strongly discourages them. It does not mandate deleting autobiographies that were created in violation of the policy either, not if the subject is unquestionably notable and the other issues had been addressed. Instead, the
WP:YOURSELF section of the policy says: "Anything you submit will be edited mercilessly to make it neutral." That's exactly what happened here. The article has been stubbified to just a few short paragraphs and all the fluff and promotional info have been removed. Perhaps the
WP:AUTO policy as it exists today is too lenient and needs to be tightened, to give it, as you put it, more teeth. But that's a different story and a conversation that would need to be conducted in a different venue.
Nsk92 (
talk)
23:51, 19 September 2020 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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