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Yes, but GEOLAND has exceptions for census tracts and suchlike wrt legal recognition, where if it's not recognized, it's not presumed keepable. As I am unsure of that, I've asked for some assistance to try to figure it out. Just FYI, at the point we're at now, it's going to be a no consensus keep.
MSJapan (
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18:41, 22 June 2016 (UTC)reply
That's what I did in the first place, but I only used the map mode - I figured it would show something more than what it did.
[1] may not be RS, but it says it has only 154 people, and I can't find anything on its legal recognition as required by
WP:GEOLAND (which excludes maps for purposes of notability, by the way). I also got more hits for "Fouka" vs. "Fukah", so I think it's a transliteration problem. I'll keep looking, but I'm not at the point where I see this as withdrawable yet.
MSJapan (
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04:00, 22 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Why not? It's a populated legally recognizable place. Your full rationale was that it's "apparently unpopulated[sic]" and that a map source "seems to indicate there isn't anything within 3 km of the location." Both have been proven to be wrong. Why is this AfD still going? --
Oakshade (
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04:58, 22 June 2016 (UTC)reply
So despite your entire deletion rationale being wrong, you're keeping this AfD going because you refuse to believe the satellite imagery (which is not a map, by the way) showing this is a distinct population center is real? --
Oakshade (
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05:56, 22 June 2016 (UTC)reply
So which is the rationale for keeping this AfD going now? Do you feel the existence of this town is not verified (WP:V) or do you feel it's not notable (WP:N)? --
Oakshade (
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06:44, 22 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Sorry, thought it was clear that it is V and is not N. I thought I was going to find something when I saw an article on a Fouka Bridge in Mersa Matrouh, but the village isn't mentioned, and apparently there's Fouka Bay, as well. I've got to dig more, but since I can't figure out if it's a
census tract or not, I'm still on the fence on this. At the very least, it's not at the right title.
MSJapan (
talk)
06:51, 22 June 2016 (UTC)reply
It seems sufficient that the Egyptian government put a post office there. Google gives the phone number as +20 46 4350026; perhaps someone should call them to see if it's really there </sarcasm>
Carlossuarez46 (
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23:11, 22 June 2016 (UTC)reply
I can check, but you're going to have to wait until I get the requisite international phone card, oh, and learn Arabic. Can you wait that long, or should I trust your judgment? :)
MSJapan (
talk)
23:19, 22 June 2016 (UTC)reply
So now you're keeping this AfD going because you think there's a conspiracy of all satellite operators,
Egypt Post[2] and all map makers to make this population center up? --
Oakshade (
talk)
02:45, 23 June 2016 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Yes, but GEOLAND has exceptions for census tracts and suchlike wrt legal recognition, where if it's not recognized, it's not presumed keepable. As I am unsure of that, I've asked for some assistance to try to figure it out. Just FYI, at the point we're at now, it's going to be a no consensus keep.
MSJapan (
talk)
18:41, 22 June 2016 (UTC)reply
That's what I did in the first place, but I only used the map mode - I figured it would show something more than what it did.
[1] may not be RS, but it says it has only 154 people, and I can't find anything on its legal recognition as required by
WP:GEOLAND (which excludes maps for purposes of notability, by the way). I also got more hits for "Fouka" vs. "Fukah", so I think it's a transliteration problem. I'll keep looking, but I'm not at the point where I see this as withdrawable yet.
MSJapan (
talk)
04:00, 22 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Why not? It's a populated legally recognizable place. Your full rationale was that it's "apparently unpopulated[sic]" and that a map source "seems to indicate there isn't anything within 3 km of the location." Both have been proven to be wrong. Why is this AfD still going? --
Oakshade (
talk)
04:58, 22 June 2016 (UTC)reply
So despite your entire deletion rationale being wrong, you're keeping this AfD going because you refuse to believe the satellite imagery (which is not a map, by the way) showing this is a distinct population center is real? --
Oakshade (
talk)
05:56, 22 June 2016 (UTC)reply
So which is the rationale for keeping this AfD going now? Do you feel the existence of this town is not verified (WP:V) or do you feel it's not notable (WP:N)? --
Oakshade (
talk)
06:44, 22 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Sorry, thought it was clear that it is V and is not N. I thought I was going to find something when I saw an article on a Fouka Bridge in Mersa Matrouh, but the village isn't mentioned, and apparently there's Fouka Bay, as well. I've got to dig more, but since I can't figure out if it's a
census tract or not, I'm still on the fence on this. At the very least, it's not at the right title.
MSJapan (
talk)
06:51, 22 June 2016 (UTC)reply
It seems sufficient that the Egyptian government put a post office there. Google gives the phone number as +20 46 4350026; perhaps someone should call them to see if it's really there </sarcasm>
Carlossuarez46 (
talk)
23:11, 22 June 2016 (UTC)reply
I can check, but you're going to have to wait until I get the requisite international phone card, oh, and learn Arabic. Can you wait that long, or should I trust your judgment? :)
MSJapan (
talk)
23:19, 22 June 2016 (UTC)reply
So now you're keeping this AfD going because you think there's a conspiracy of all satellite operators,
Egypt Post[2] and all map makers to make this population center up? --
Oakshade (
talk)
02:45, 23 June 2016 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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