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WP:NRIVALRY says "Sports rivalries are not inherently notable" and defers to
WP:GNG. GNG states "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list." Rivalry is not establish via the current (lone) citation. There is some routine coverage in some search results showing slight, but not significant (or national), coverage.
UW Dawgs (
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09:52, 3 December 2017 (UTC)reply
This is not so easy. The Fresno Bee is a nationally recognized newspaper, and
[1] this statement explains that Hawaii has played Fresno State more than any other team. The article itself is nothing more than a Wikipedia blog. I'm going to !vote Delete, as if there is no one willing to take on the large job of adding inline citations, this should not be on Wikipedia.
Unscintillating (
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22:01, 3 December 2017 (UTC)reply
@
Unscintillating: The fact that the article can be improved, including adding inline citations, is not a valid reason for deletion except in the case of a biography of a living person (which this is not). The issue here is whether this rivalry is notable, and the extensive coverage dating back to the 1950s shows that it is.
Cbl62 (
talk)
12:28, 4 December 2017 (UTC)reply
I could go into a thoughtful policy based rebuttal with quotes and an IAR with reasons added to cover gray areas, but with no one working on this article, I wonder if the ARS has editors interested.
Unscintillating (
talk)
01:47, 6 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep per Cbl62. Additional source: "No day at the beach for 'Dogs, Hawaii develops into fiercest football rival for Fresno State" Fresno Bee (2005)
WikiOriginal-9 (
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09:19, 5 December 2017 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
WP:NRIVALRY says "Sports rivalries are not inherently notable" and defers to
WP:GNG. GNG states "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list." Rivalry is not establish via the current (lone) citation. There is some routine coverage in some search results showing slight, but not significant (or national), coverage.
UW Dawgs (
talk)
09:52, 3 December 2017 (UTC)reply
This is not so easy. The Fresno Bee is a nationally recognized newspaper, and
[1] this statement explains that Hawaii has played Fresno State more than any other team. The article itself is nothing more than a Wikipedia blog. I'm going to !vote Delete, as if there is no one willing to take on the large job of adding inline citations, this should not be on Wikipedia.
Unscintillating (
talk)
22:01, 3 December 2017 (UTC)reply
@
Unscintillating: The fact that the article can be improved, including adding inline citations, is not a valid reason for deletion except in the case of a biography of a living person (which this is not). The issue here is whether this rivalry is notable, and the extensive coverage dating back to the 1950s shows that it is.
Cbl62 (
talk)
12:28, 4 December 2017 (UTC)reply
I could go into a thoughtful policy based rebuttal with quotes and an IAR with reasons added to cover gray areas, but with no one working on this article, I wonder if the ARS has editors interested.
Unscintillating (
talk)
01:47, 6 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep per Cbl62. Additional source: "No day at the beach for 'Dogs, Hawaii develops into fiercest football rival for Fresno State" Fresno Bee (2005)
WikiOriginal-9 (
talk)
09:19, 5 December 2017 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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