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The result was delete. Consensus is that this not yet enough of a thing in terms of coverage to merit an article. Can be draftified or userfied on request at WP:REFUND. (As an aside, under our current notability practices they'd have more chance to get an article if they were the D-tier comics superhero team the title suggests. Maybe they should invest in some spandex?) Sandstein 19:28, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Freedom Force (United States Congress)
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WP:SUSTAINED WP:NTEMP Probably best to keep this as a draft for the time beingas the Freedom Force has not maintained sustained significant media coverage after its initial creation as a "conservative reaction to The Squad." Whereas The Squad has its fair share of continued and sustained media coverage, its counterpart has made relatively little noise as of yet. If its relevance is predicated on being solely a reaction with little yet done I think it should be shelved for the time being until its actions as a group makes some inroads. Ornithoptera ( talk) 13:20, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
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- Draftify per above. – Cupper52 Discuss! 13:27, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete much too soon to have clear evidence that this is a group that is defined and excepted in regular discourse as an actual thing. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 13:58, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Draftify until we actually have documentation indicating that this is a meaningful group (and not a transient publicity stunt), or delete (recreating it wouldn't be too hard). The text would need work before the draft could be restored; I mean,
denounce socialism and support small businesses
? In American politics, that's a content-free phrase. Everyone claims tosupport small businesses
. And everyone in the center or the right willdenounce socialism
in one way or another, though what they mean bysocialism
is up in the air — anything being denounced at the moment is called socialist. XOR'easter ( talk) 16:28, 20 January 2021 (UTC) - Draftify (or delete). No evidence that notability is WP:SUSTAINED. Generalrelative ( talk) 16:50, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete informal, low coverage, and unclear who even is part of it or what it is. It can be rewritten if it ever comes to fruition. Eccekevin ( talk) 22:51, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Unless this "group" receives more national coverage, I don't see a point in keeping this article. It seems the members have only spoken about the group in passing and were chosen randomly; nothing seems official. Miss HollyJ ( talk) 07:27, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect/selective merge to The Squad (United States Congress). Freedom Force has received coverage in reliable sources, but perhaps it is not sustained enough for an independent article. As it is a valid search term, a redirect would be helpful to readers. It is reported in sources that this informal group is a conservative response to The Squad, so a brief mention in that article seems reasonable in my opinion. Redirecting versus out right deletion would make it easier to restore this article as a starting point (if more coverage occurs). TJMSmith ( talk) 02:10, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
- Draftify if and when there is sustained and lasting coverage, then the article can be recreated. -- Enos733 ( talk) 05:08, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete I vote in favor of deleting this article. This article brings nothing to contributing to what is established. It also lacks significant sources to back up that this is indeed an official coalition group of people. This is only in response to an already formed congressional group The Squad (United States Congress). The Squad is an established coalition and has been politicized throughout the media. Freedom Force is only a direct response to that. For that reason I vote in favor of deleting. Welcometothenewmillenium ( talk) 08:00, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Consensus is that this not yet enough of a thing in terms of coverage to merit an article. Can be draftified or userfied on request at WP:REFUND. (As an aside, under our current notability practices they'd have more chance to get an article if they were the D-tier comics superhero team the title suggests. Maybe they should invest in some spandex?) Sandstein 19:28, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Freedom Force (United States Congress)
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WP:SUSTAINED WP:NTEMP Probably best to keep this as a draft for the time beingas the Freedom Force has not maintained sustained significant media coverage after its initial creation as a "conservative reaction to The Squad." Whereas The Squad has its fair share of continued and sustained media coverage, its counterpart has made relatively little noise as of yet. If its relevance is predicated on being solely a reaction with little yet done I think it should be shelved for the time being until its actions as a group makes some inroads. Ornithoptera ( talk) 13:20, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Ornithoptera ( talk) 13:20, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Conservatism-related deletion discussions. Ornithoptera ( talk) 13:20, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Ornithoptera ( talk) 13:20, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Ornithoptera ( talk) 13:20, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Draftify per above. – Cupper52 Discuss! 13:27, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete much too soon to have clear evidence that this is a group that is defined and excepted in regular discourse as an actual thing. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 13:58, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Draftify until we actually have documentation indicating that this is a meaningful group (and not a transient publicity stunt), or delete (recreating it wouldn't be too hard). The text would need work before the draft could be restored; I mean,
denounce socialism and support small businesses
? In American politics, that's a content-free phrase. Everyone claims tosupport small businesses
. And everyone in the center or the right willdenounce socialism
in one way or another, though what they mean bysocialism
is up in the air — anything being denounced at the moment is called socialist. XOR'easter ( talk) 16:28, 20 January 2021 (UTC) - Draftify (or delete). No evidence that notability is WP:SUSTAINED. Generalrelative ( talk) 16:50, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete informal, low coverage, and unclear who even is part of it or what it is. It can be rewritten if it ever comes to fruition. Eccekevin ( talk) 22:51, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Unless this "group" receives more national coverage, I don't see a point in keeping this article. It seems the members have only spoken about the group in passing and were chosen randomly; nothing seems official. Miss HollyJ ( talk) 07:27, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect/selective merge to The Squad (United States Congress). Freedom Force has received coverage in reliable sources, but perhaps it is not sustained enough for an independent article. As it is a valid search term, a redirect would be helpful to readers. It is reported in sources that this informal group is a conservative response to The Squad, so a brief mention in that article seems reasonable in my opinion. Redirecting versus out right deletion would make it easier to restore this article as a starting point (if more coverage occurs). TJMSmith ( talk) 02:10, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
- Draftify if and when there is sustained and lasting coverage, then the article can be recreated. -- Enos733 ( talk) 05:08, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete I vote in favor of deleting this article. This article brings nothing to contributing to what is established. It also lacks significant sources to back up that this is indeed an official coalition group of people. This is only in response to an already formed congressional group The Squad (United States Congress). The Squad is an established coalition and has been politicized throughout the media. Freedom Force is only a direct response to that. For that reason I vote in favor of deleting. Welcometothenewmillenium ( talk) 08:00, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.