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Could not find any evidence of a community with this name at this location. Does not appear on topo maps until the 2011 edition, likely based on the
GNIS entry which in turn cites "Place Names of Bibb County, Alabama" (1980). No apparent connection to the community of Blocton which appears on old maps at this location. –
dlthewave☎19:40, 13 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete. No coverage. Not to be confused with
Flat Top, Jefferson County, Alabama, which is where I believe the mine and prison was located. Trying to differentiate between the two is tricky,
Alabama Mine Map Repository has Flat Top Mine in Jefferson County. Searching Google for '"Flat Top Mine" "Bibb"' seems to only find references for the mine being in Jefferson County, I never found anything that indicated the mine was in Bibb.
Bibb County, Alabama: The First Hundred Years has two references for Flat Top, but they are not shown in the preview. Other than that, I found nothing notable for Flat Top in Bibb County in GBooks. Searching Newspapers.com came up with a bunch of hits for the mine and associated prison (clearly
Flat Top, Jefferson County, Alabama might be expanded if it really is the location of the mine and prison.) However, it seems that the subject of this article is near
Centreville, Alabama, so looking at the Centreville newspaper for Flat Top is indicated. Even then, the only thing I found was
an article about overdue taxes. As Flat Top, Bibb County has virtually no coverage, it is not notable and I found no legal recognition. Thus neither #1 nor #2 of
WP:GEOLAND or
WP:GNG are met.
Cxbrx (
talk)
13:06, 21 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete per Cxbrx, who is always very thorough. I was having trouble distinguishing between the two Flat Tops, which is why I didn't !vote earlier, but I trust their thorough research.
Hog FarmTalk15:19, 21 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Thanks! You are too kind. Your two newspapers.com references got me started. Differentiating between these two is not easy, I could be wrong. If someone has conclusive evidence that Flat Top, Bibb county was where the mine and prison was located, I would quickly change my !vote.
Cxbrx (
talk)
16:15, 21 August 2021 (UTC)reply
I would change my !vote in that situation, as well. Normally, I can at least guess based on geographic context what one a source is referring to, but in this case Bibb and Jefferson counties are next to each other, so it's basically impossible.
Hog FarmTalk16:19, 21 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete. 1899 USGS map says that these coordinates refer to "Blockton", 1934 and 1940 maps say the article's coordinates are in "Smith Hill"... no "Flat Top" there, and it doesn't look like there's anything beyond a few houses at that location. All this for a single-sentence stub -- and if Cxbrx and Hog Farm didn't find anything, I don't think anyone else is going to. jp×g22:48, 23 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete. Based on the hunt for sources above, it's clear we can't write about this (potential?) place unless something new turns up. /
Julle (
talk)
23:56, 26 August 2021 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Could not find any evidence of a community with this name at this location. Does not appear on topo maps until the 2011 edition, likely based on the
GNIS entry which in turn cites "Place Names of Bibb County, Alabama" (1980). No apparent connection to the community of Blocton which appears on old maps at this location. –
dlthewave☎19:40, 13 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete. No coverage. Not to be confused with
Flat Top, Jefferson County, Alabama, which is where I believe the mine and prison was located. Trying to differentiate between the two is tricky,
Alabama Mine Map Repository has Flat Top Mine in Jefferson County. Searching Google for '"Flat Top Mine" "Bibb"' seems to only find references for the mine being in Jefferson County, I never found anything that indicated the mine was in Bibb.
Bibb County, Alabama: The First Hundred Years has two references for Flat Top, but they are not shown in the preview. Other than that, I found nothing notable for Flat Top in Bibb County in GBooks. Searching Newspapers.com came up with a bunch of hits for the mine and associated prison (clearly
Flat Top, Jefferson County, Alabama might be expanded if it really is the location of the mine and prison.) However, it seems that the subject of this article is near
Centreville, Alabama, so looking at the Centreville newspaper for Flat Top is indicated. Even then, the only thing I found was
an article about overdue taxes. As Flat Top, Bibb County has virtually no coverage, it is not notable and I found no legal recognition. Thus neither #1 nor #2 of
WP:GEOLAND or
WP:GNG are met.
Cxbrx (
talk)
13:06, 21 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete per Cxbrx, who is always very thorough. I was having trouble distinguishing between the two Flat Tops, which is why I didn't !vote earlier, but I trust their thorough research.
Hog FarmTalk15:19, 21 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Thanks! You are too kind. Your two newspapers.com references got me started. Differentiating between these two is not easy, I could be wrong. If someone has conclusive evidence that Flat Top, Bibb county was where the mine and prison was located, I would quickly change my !vote.
Cxbrx (
talk)
16:15, 21 August 2021 (UTC)reply
I would change my !vote in that situation, as well. Normally, I can at least guess based on geographic context what one a source is referring to, but in this case Bibb and Jefferson counties are next to each other, so it's basically impossible.
Hog FarmTalk16:19, 21 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete. 1899 USGS map says that these coordinates refer to "Blockton", 1934 and 1940 maps say the article's coordinates are in "Smith Hill"... no "Flat Top" there, and it doesn't look like there's anything beyond a few houses at that location. All this for a single-sentence stub -- and if Cxbrx and Hog Farm didn't find anything, I don't think anyone else is going to. jp×g22:48, 23 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete. Based on the hunt for sources above, it's clear we can't write about this (potential?) place unless something new turns up. /
Julle (
talk)
23:56, 26 August 2021 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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