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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 23:49, 11 February 2022 (UTC) reply

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The page is promo and out of date. Now, deletion isn't cleanup. But I think those problems are inherent to this page and no amount of editing will fix that. I don't see how this article will ever be more than an advertisement for various internet companies. Furthermore, I'm not so sure the underlying topic is notable. This is effectively a list, and I don't see that WP:LISTN is met. The individual fiber plans are discussed, but not as a whole entity. With fiber becoming increasingly ubiquitous, I don't see how this would be any more notable than Cable to the premises by country. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!} ⚓ 21:13, 4 February 2022 (UTC) reply

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• Delete: I think nom is right on about the problems being inherent to the topic. Anyone so inclined might want to skim this article quickly to see if anything would be useful at Fiber_to_the_x#Deployments, the article it was broken out of. The article List of terrestrial fibre optic cable projects in Africa might be worth an AfD too for similar reasons, though it's not in quite such bad shape. -- asilvering ( talk) 00:53, 5 February 2022 (UTC) reply

• I made a recent addition to this article. I put the effort into expanding this article because it answers this question for me: What countries/cities do have fiber connections available? While I see the issue of a lot of name calling of big corporations it is a natural thing to occur in this topic. Usually the biggest telco providers within one country are the most noteworthy and such an apropriate source. I'm in favor of deletion if there is another article which answers the question which I highlighted in bold. But I also admit that the part of title 'Fiber to the premises' cannot properly be answered. A name like 'Availability of Fiber internet by country' would make more sense imho GavriilaDmitriev ( talk) 08:46, 5 February 2022 (UTC) reply

  @ GavriilaDmitriev To try to understand what exactly you want here: would your question be satisfied by an alphabetical list of every country in the world, and then a simple "yes" or "no" with a footnote? -- asilvering ( talk) 18:06, 5 February 2022 (UTC) reply

  Thanks for the question. That would not be enough. Imagine you want to relocate to a country and you want to know if you can get fiber speed internet there. A maybe outdates yes/no wouldn't help. Interesting info would be:

  • How is the availability (only in cities, almost 100%)
  • rough price I have to expect to pay and
  • how much effort is put into improving the fiber availability
  • How is the provider landscape (monopoly, big variety)

  The current article presents the info in a good way but is sadly severely outdated. But even while outdated I know a minimum standard to expect.

  GavriilaDmitriev ( talk) 00:27, 6 February 2022 (UTC) reply

  Hm. I'm still with CaptainEek's reasoning, in that case. That's going to attract promo and unreliable information. Honestly, I've done a handful of international moves and would never even think to try to find that kind of information here, let alone trust it if I did. -- asilvering ( talk) 01:03, 6 February 2022 (UTC) reply

• Delete - Given the speed at which things change in each country, let alone region or city, I can't see any way that this page can reasonably be kept up to date unless it was just to refer people to the broadband pages for individual countries. Gusfriend ( talk) 11:03, 8 February 2022 (UTC) reply
• Delete per nom. Page is just promotion. Swordman97 ^{talk to me} 21:07, 9 February 2022 (UTC) reply

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