The result was delete both. -- Sam Blanning (talk) 10:21, 18 July 2006 (UTC) reply
This nomination will become is complex. Please bear with me until all the articles within it are completely listed The articles are now completely listed Or I think they are!). The set of articles is here for the community to form a judgement on. At the end of this some may survive and others fail. We should thus attempt to be specific about those we wish, as individual articles, to keep.
The article "Fertility Retreat" is being used as a starting point to try to untangle what appears to be a publicity campaign WP:AGF notwithstanding, by the article's creator on behalf of Randine Lewis, and one or more other people or organisations. There is a web of redirects and links and other additions that the closing admin will need to address in any articles flagged for deletion by consensus at the end.
My nomination is that they are all advertorial or designed to enhance the notability of the advertorial of other articles. Or, to put it simply: Spam. If there is a better route than AfD for this set of nominations that woudl be useful to know Fiddle Faddle 07:26, 11 July 2006 (UTC) reply
Additional Articles:
That completes the nomination of main pages. I am assuming that, should this nomination succeed, all related redirects and other spam links will be part of it. Fiddle Faddle 07:39, 11 July 2006 (UTC) reply
Note there is additional information at Talk:Fertility Retreat, which prompted this nomination. Fiddle Faddle 07:42, 11 July 2006 (UTC) reply
trialsanderrors has pointed out, correctly, that this AfD is not listed properly procedurally. The procedural issues have been moved to trialsanderrors's talk page for you to see. I am about to take the following actions:
When this is complete I will make a further note here. My apologies for any confusion I have caused. From this point on please leave your opinions for ONLY Fertility Retreat and Randine Lewis. These articles were created by Amplifychristian in what currenlty appears to be a PR campaign. Fiddle Faddle 10:25, 11 July 2006 (UTC) reply
The procedural relisting is now complete. I am about to notify users who have already expressed an opinon here on their talk pages of this fact to ensure corect consensus is reached. Again my apologies for procedural errors. Fiddle Faddle 10:40, 11 July 2006 (UTC) reply
Keep I don't understand why entries that I've made are being labeled as 'spam.' I have knowledge of these companies that I've made entries for and strayed away from any sort of 'advertisial speak' present. In fact, for the other entries (as well as this one) I've made I modeled the format after other similar entries. I think it's unfair to label me as being some sort of "PR person" just because I made several entries in a short amount of time. Sure, label me incorrectly as being this if I were to make entries that seemed like advertisements. But I do believe the entries I've made are neutral in language and provide information for people who are interested in that company and/or person.
In regards to Fertility Retreats, yes, I think it stands as being something notable. I tried to stay away from bias in any regard to Randine Lewis, just because I know who she is and have knowledge that there are other people who engage in these 'fertility retreats.' If someone believes that I'm 'spamming' or having an 'advertisial tone' in my entires (which I've entirely tried to stray away from), then I would appreciate it if you were to edit the page! I've provided a couple of articles that show some credibility into what a "fertility retreat" is and how it could be a notable entry for Wikipedia.
My hope is that users don't just read Fiddle Faddle's comments about me/my entries and automatically assume I'm spamming. If each user could take a little bit of time, look over the entries I've created/edited, and looked for themselves how they contain NO 'advertisial speak' AND no bias and are, in fact, MODELED after other entries in similar categories (my examples being Synplicity, Mentor Graphics, and Synopsys for the EDA category for my entry Novas Software, which is also being targeted for deletion just because one user thought I was trying to advertise) then I would feel confident in the fact that other users would see entries I've created as being neutral and, in fact, informative and similar to other entries in their respective categories and fields. PLEASE take a look at this entry along with the others that I've created and see that I'm not employing in any "PR efforts" or trying to advertise for said companies - I'm just creating neutral entries for companies which are modeled after similar ones. Why I'm being targeted as 'spamming' and such, I don't know.
And to address Fiddle Faddle's latest comment - I do believe he's picking at straws to make sure all of my entries are deleted. I don't know what I did to this user, but it seems like he/she is on some sort of 'mini-mission' to have everything I've done on here deleted. If I engaged in any sort of advertisial tone or spamming, then I could see why he/she has his/her rationale. If you have a problem with anything in any entry I've made, made note of it, edit it, whatever.-- Christian B 17:37, 14 July 2006 (UTC) reply
The result was delete both. -- Sam Blanning (talk) 10:21, 18 July 2006 (UTC) reply
This nomination will become is complex. Please bear with me until all the articles within it are completely listed The articles are now completely listed Or I think they are!). The set of articles is here for the community to form a judgement on. At the end of this some may survive and others fail. We should thus attempt to be specific about those we wish, as individual articles, to keep.
The article "Fertility Retreat" is being used as a starting point to try to untangle what appears to be a publicity campaign WP:AGF notwithstanding, by the article's creator on behalf of Randine Lewis, and one or more other people or organisations. There is a web of redirects and links and other additions that the closing admin will need to address in any articles flagged for deletion by consensus at the end.
My nomination is that they are all advertorial or designed to enhance the notability of the advertorial of other articles. Or, to put it simply: Spam. If there is a better route than AfD for this set of nominations that woudl be useful to know Fiddle Faddle 07:26, 11 July 2006 (UTC) reply
Additional Articles:
That completes the nomination of main pages. I am assuming that, should this nomination succeed, all related redirects and other spam links will be part of it. Fiddle Faddle 07:39, 11 July 2006 (UTC) reply
Note there is additional information at Talk:Fertility Retreat, which prompted this nomination. Fiddle Faddle 07:42, 11 July 2006 (UTC) reply
trialsanderrors has pointed out, correctly, that this AfD is not listed properly procedurally. The procedural issues have been moved to trialsanderrors's talk page for you to see. I am about to take the following actions:
When this is complete I will make a further note here. My apologies for any confusion I have caused. From this point on please leave your opinions for ONLY Fertility Retreat and Randine Lewis. These articles were created by Amplifychristian in what currenlty appears to be a PR campaign. Fiddle Faddle 10:25, 11 July 2006 (UTC) reply
The procedural relisting is now complete. I am about to notify users who have already expressed an opinon here on their talk pages of this fact to ensure corect consensus is reached. Again my apologies for procedural errors. Fiddle Faddle 10:40, 11 July 2006 (UTC) reply
Keep I don't understand why entries that I've made are being labeled as 'spam.' I have knowledge of these companies that I've made entries for and strayed away from any sort of 'advertisial speak' present. In fact, for the other entries (as well as this one) I've made I modeled the format after other similar entries. I think it's unfair to label me as being some sort of "PR person" just because I made several entries in a short amount of time. Sure, label me incorrectly as being this if I were to make entries that seemed like advertisements. But I do believe the entries I've made are neutral in language and provide information for people who are interested in that company and/or person.
In regards to Fertility Retreats, yes, I think it stands as being something notable. I tried to stay away from bias in any regard to Randine Lewis, just because I know who she is and have knowledge that there are other people who engage in these 'fertility retreats.' If someone believes that I'm 'spamming' or having an 'advertisial tone' in my entires (which I've entirely tried to stray away from), then I would appreciate it if you were to edit the page! I've provided a couple of articles that show some credibility into what a "fertility retreat" is and how it could be a notable entry for Wikipedia.
My hope is that users don't just read Fiddle Faddle's comments about me/my entries and automatically assume I'm spamming. If each user could take a little bit of time, look over the entries I've created/edited, and looked for themselves how they contain NO 'advertisial speak' AND no bias and are, in fact, MODELED after other entries in similar categories (my examples being Synplicity, Mentor Graphics, and Synopsys for the EDA category for my entry Novas Software, which is also being targeted for deletion just because one user thought I was trying to advertise) then I would feel confident in the fact that other users would see entries I've created as being neutral and, in fact, informative and similar to other entries in their respective categories and fields. PLEASE take a look at this entry along with the others that I've created and see that I'm not employing in any "PR efforts" or trying to advertise for said companies - I'm just creating neutral entries for companies which are modeled after similar ones. Why I'm being targeted as 'spamming' and such, I don't know.
And to address Fiddle Faddle's latest comment - I do believe he's picking at straws to make sure all of my entries are deleted. I don't know what I did to this user, but it seems like he/she is on some sort of 'mini-mission' to have everything I've done on here deleted. If I engaged in any sort of advertisial tone or spamming, then I could see why he/she has his/her rationale. If you have a problem with anything in any entry I've made, made note of it, edit it, whatever.-- Christian B 17:37, 14 July 2006 (UTC) reply