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The result was redirect to Family Stadium for now at least. Could be restored to a full article in the future if sufficient reliable source coverage is found. RL0919 ( talk) 16:10, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
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This video game does not meet WP:GNG for the lack of significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. Nothing to be found in my searches except for the IGN paragraph on [1], nothing on Moby, Metacritic or archives. Was deprodded with a WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCES rationale. Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 08:58, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
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- Comment Looks like a Japan-only release to me. May have better luck finding sources under the name Famista 2003 and the Japanese title for the series which seems to be ファミスタシリーズ -
X201 (
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09:38, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
- Noted. Sadly, even the Japanese Wikipedia article for Family Stadium (Famista) 2003 (the one you linked is about the series as whole, not this title) is unsourced as well. Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 12:55, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
- Comment -- Jovan, could you also tag the Japan related AfD list, as what is needed here is someone who can look for Japanese sources? matt91486 ( talk) 09:51, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
- Keep -- I cannot speak Japanese, but as far as I can tell, the Famitsu page for the game is
[2]. This also seems to be relevant directly
[3]. There are lots of links from sites like this
[4] or
[5] or
[6] that I lack the background to speak for their ability to count as reliable sources, but clearly are about the topic. Language expertise is needed. But at first glance with as best as I can do language wise, there seem to be sufficient cites available, as expected, even if they will require someone who can properly speak Japanese to say for sure and/or incorporate them.
matt91486 (
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10:01, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
- Comment Matt91486, Famitsu is just a listing, which could verify the release date, but does not contribute towards WP:GNG. [7] and [8] seem unreliable sadly, cannot find any staff writing those and both feel blog-like. However, [9] is reliable per Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources and [10] could potentially be good (I think this would need WP:VG involvement for the reliability). Considering the reliability of the 3rd source is still in question, I am in the phase merge the information to Family Stadium per the policy WP:PRESERVE as I don't think it has independent notability at worst. What do you think about the merging? Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 11:46, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
- @ Jovanmilic97: - I'm personally still inclined toward keep; however, I do think a merger and redirect would be a preferable resolution to an outright delete. I am still hopeful that if we get it on the list of Japanese-related deletions, we might be able to get someone who can far more effectively search than I was able to, to see what sources are out there. matt91486 ( talk) 05:46, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Just Chilling ( talk) 14:43, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Family Stadium as there's really no content to merge. Redirect is a favorable alternative to deletion and I can see some plausibility as a search term. Red Phoenix talk 12:18, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Family Stadium for now at least. Could be restored to a full article in the future if sufficient reliable source coverage is found. RL0919 ( talk) 16:10, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
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This video game does not meet WP:GNG for the lack of significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. Nothing to be found in my searches except for the IGN paragraph on [1], nothing on Moby, Metacritic or archives. Was deprodded with a WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCES rationale. Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 08:58, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
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- Comment Looks like a Japan-only release to me. May have better luck finding sources under the name Famista 2003 and the Japanese title for the series which seems to be ファミスタシリーズ -
X201 (
talk)
09:38, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
- Noted. Sadly, even the Japanese Wikipedia article for Family Stadium (Famista) 2003 (the one you linked is about the series as whole, not this title) is unsourced as well. Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 12:55, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
- Comment -- Jovan, could you also tag the Japan related AfD list, as what is needed here is someone who can look for Japanese sources? matt91486 ( talk) 09:51, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
- Keep -- I cannot speak Japanese, but as far as I can tell, the Famitsu page for the game is
[2]. This also seems to be relevant directly
[3]. There are lots of links from sites like this
[4] or
[5] or
[6] that I lack the background to speak for their ability to count as reliable sources, but clearly are about the topic. Language expertise is needed. But at first glance with as best as I can do language wise, there seem to be sufficient cites available, as expected, even if they will require someone who can properly speak Japanese to say for sure and/or incorporate them.
matt91486 (
talk)
10:01, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
- Comment Matt91486, Famitsu is just a listing, which could verify the release date, but does not contribute towards WP:GNG. [7] and [8] seem unreliable sadly, cannot find any staff writing those and both feel blog-like. However, [9] is reliable per Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources and [10] could potentially be good (I think this would need WP:VG involvement for the reliability). Considering the reliability of the 3rd source is still in question, I am in the phase merge the information to Family Stadium per the policy WP:PRESERVE as I don't think it has independent notability at worst. What do you think about the merging? Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 11:46, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
- @ Jovanmilic97: - I'm personally still inclined toward keep; however, I do think a merger and redirect would be a preferable resolution to an outright delete. I am still hopeful that if we get it on the list of Japanese-related deletions, we might be able to get someone who can far more effectively search than I was able to, to see what sources are out there. matt91486 ( talk) 05:46, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Just Chilling ( talk) 14:43, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Just Chilling ( talk) 14:43, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz ( talk) 15:37, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz ( talk) 15:37, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect to Family Stadium as there's really no content to merge. Redirect is a favorable alternative to deletion and I can see some plausibility as a search term. Red Phoenix talk 12:18, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.