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The result was keep and move to Wellington College of Education. Sources provided and article improved. ansh 666 07:38, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
Faculty of Education of Victoria University of Wellington
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Fails WP:GNG, as tagged since April 2012. Steve Quinn moved the article to the draft namespace twice even though the article has existed since 2003 and GB fan recommended an AfD. I also did a further move from Victoria University of Wellington Faculty of Education to the above title. GeoffreyT2000 ( talk, contribs) 00:55, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
- Delete nothing to suggest standalone notability to meet WP:ORG. oppose redirect as an unlikely search term. LibStar ( talk) 02:16, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 15:27, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 15:27, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
- Delete. Individual faculties within universities are generally not notable unless there are a range of independent sources providing this, none of which can be found. Ajf773 ( talk) 19:33, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Often we discover that individual segments of a University lack independent coverage in reliable sources, and this seems to be the case. Fails WP:N and WP:ORG. ---- Steve Quinn ( talk) 19:06, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- Keep the problem here is that the article is incomplete and misses a significant amount of background history. The faculty, as mentioned in the article was formerly a completely independent body called the Wellington College of Education, whose primary role was to train school teachers. Had information and background on the College been included it would be sufficient in itself to meet WP:GNG and other guidelines. In essence the article needs work and expansion relating to the faculties history. Had it just been a faculty in the University I would agree with the delete. NealeFamily ( talk) 03:29, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- Keep on the grounds that it once was the Wellington College of Education, which is easy enough to find historical sources about (a sampling, quickly arrived at: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]). XOR'easter ( talk) 14:44, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Winged Blades of Godric On leave 08:24, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Winged Blades of Godric On leave 08:24, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- Comment I have added the six sources I listed in my !vote above to the article. XOR'easter ( talk) 16:15, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- Keep per NealeFamily and XOR'easter. As a "faculty of education" it does not sound notable, but it is the current embodiment of an institution with a 137-year history -- it is older than the university itself! The references added by XOR'easter address the complaints that there were no reliable sources cited. -- Gpc62 ( talk) 20:08, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
- Stubify to focus in previous separate institution because that trivially meets Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Common_outcomes#Education. I'm happy to do the stubifying if pinged by the closing admin. Stuartyeates ( talk) 08:53, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- Note: I have a conflict of interest with this institution. Stuartyeates ( talk) 08:53, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- Note: The IP edit that triggered the move that triggered this AfD was made from with the institutions' public IP address range. Stuartyeates ( talk) 08:53, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- Keep and move article to ‘Wellington College of Education’, as that’s where the notability lies. What has become of the school can then be mentioned. Schwede 66 16:44, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
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The result was keep and move to Wellington College of Education. Sources provided and article improved. ansh 666 07:38, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
Faculty of Education of Victoria University of Wellington
- Faculty of Education of Victoria University of Wellington ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Fails WP:GNG, as tagged since April 2012. Steve Quinn moved the article to the draft namespace twice even though the article has existed since 2003 and GB fan recommended an AfD. I also did a further move from Victoria University of Wellington Faculty of Education to the above title. GeoffreyT2000 ( talk, contribs) 00:55, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
- Delete nothing to suggest standalone notability to meet WP:ORG. oppose redirect as an unlikely search term. LibStar ( talk) 02:16, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 15:27, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 15:27, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
- Delete. Individual faculties within universities are generally not notable unless there are a range of independent sources providing this, none of which can be found. Ajf773 ( talk) 19:33, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Often we discover that individual segments of a University lack independent coverage in reliable sources, and this seems to be the case. Fails WP:N and WP:ORG. ---- Steve Quinn ( talk) 19:06, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- Keep the problem here is that the article is incomplete and misses a significant amount of background history. The faculty, as mentioned in the article was formerly a completely independent body called the Wellington College of Education, whose primary role was to train school teachers. Had information and background on the College been included it would be sufficient in itself to meet WP:GNG and other guidelines. In essence the article needs work and expansion relating to the faculties history. Had it just been a faculty in the University I would agree with the delete. NealeFamily ( talk) 03:29, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- Keep on the grounds that it once was the Wellington College of Education, which is easy enough to find historical sources about (a sampling, quickly arrived at: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]). XOR'easter ( talk) 14:44, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Winged Blades of Godric On leave 08:24, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Winged Blades of Godric On leave 08:24, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- Comment I have added the six sources I listed in my !vote above to the article. XOR'easter ( talk) 16:15, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- Keep per NealeFamily and XOR'easter. As a "faculty of education" it does not sound notable, but it is the current embodiment of an institution with a 137-year history -- it is older than the university itself! The references added by XOR'easter address the complaints that there were no reliable sources cited. -- Gpc62 ( talk) 20:08, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
- Stubify to focus in previous separate institution because that trivially meets Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Common_outcomes#Education. I'm happy to do the stubifying if pinged by the closing admin. Stuartyeates ( talk) 08:53, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- Note: I have a conflict of interest with this institution. Stuartyeates ( talk) 08:53, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- Note: The IP edit that triggered the move that triggered this AfD was made from with the institutions' public IP address range. Stuartyeates ( talk) 08:53, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- Keep and move article to ‘Wellington College of Education’, as that’s where the notability lies. What has become of the school can then be mentioned. Schwede 66 16:44, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.