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The result was delete. Whether a redirect is merited is a separate editorial decision. ✗ plicit 03:36, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
F.C. Clivense
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Article about a new association football club, founded by a former Chievo player and director, which aims to be an informal successor of A.C. ChievoVerona and is going to play Terza Categoria, the very bottom tier of Italian amateur football (organized at provincial level), and definitely not a fact that makes the club notable. The club has no legal or formal connection to Chievo Verona, and no past history to justify it having its own article. Angelo ( talk) 00:06, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete - not notable, yet. Nehme 1499 00:20, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Although I'm the creator of the page I admit it should be deleted per above Dr Salvus 05:16, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. Giant Snowman 20:38, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
- Draftify as
WP:TOOSOON. If the team should gain promotion to
Seconda Categoria, I think that would be enough for notability but it's far too early as things stand.
No Great Shaker (
talk)
13:13, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- @ No Great Shaker: Seconda Categoria is the 8th tier of Italian football; only clubs in the top 3 (sometimes 4) tiers compete in the domestic cup. The more probable outcome is that the next season they could try to buy a licence for Serie D, as A.S.D. Città di Varese have done for example. Nehme 1499 13:25, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, Nehme. The thing is that we have articles for English clubs as far down as the tenth tier. A phoenix club in Italy would surely gain significant coverage if its team were successful in reaching the eighth tier so I think I'd like this to be saved as a draft until we see how they progress.
No Great Shaker (
talk)
13:39, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- @ No Great Shaker: The difference is that there are about 160 clubs playing in the English 8th tier, whereas there are almost 3,000 playing in the Seconda Categoria. Nehme 1499 01:02, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, Nehme. The thing is that we have articles for English clubs as far down as the tenth tier. A phoenix club in Italy would surely gain significant coverage if its team were successful in reaching the eighth tier so I think I'd like this to be saved as a draft until we see how they progress.
No Great Shaker (
talk)
13:39, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to A.C. ChievoVerona which already briefly discusses the club. Nfitz ( talk) 22:26, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was delete. Whether a redirect is merited is a separate editorial decision. ✗ plicit 03:36, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
F.C. Clivense
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Article about a new association football club, founded by a former Chievo player and director, which aims to be an informal successor of A.C. ChievoVerona and is going to play Terza Categoria, the very bottom tier of Italian amateur football (organized at provincial level), and definitely not a fact that makes the club notable. The club has no legal or formal connection to Chievo Verona, and no past history to justify it having its own article. Angelo ( talk) 00:06, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
- Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log ( step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2021 September 22. — cyberbot I Talk to my owner:Online 00:16, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 00:19, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 00:19, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 00:19, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Nehme 1499 00:20, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - not notable, yet. Nehme 1499 00:20, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Although I'm the creator of the page I admit it should be deleted per above Dr Salvus 05:16, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. Giant Snowman 20:38, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
- Draftify as
WP:TOOSOON. If the team should gain promotion to
Seconda Categoria, I think that would be enough for notability but it's far too early as things stand.
No Great Shaker (
talk)
13:13, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- @ No Great Shaker: Seconda Categoria is the 8th tier of Italian football; only clubs in the top 3 (sometimes 4) tiers compete in the domestic cup. The more probable outcome is that the next season they could try to buy a licence for Serie D, as A.S.D. Città di Varese have done for example. Nehme 1499 13:25, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, Nehme. The thing is that we have articles for English clubs as far down as the tenth tier. A phoenix club in Italy would surely gain significant coverage if its team were successful in reaching the eighth tier so I think I'd like this to be saved as a draft until we see how they progress.
No Great Shaker (
talk)
13:39, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- @ No Great Shaker: The difference is that there are about 160 clubs playing in the English 8th tier, whereas there are almost 3,000 playing in the Seconda Categoria. Nehme 1499 01:02, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, Nehme. The thing is that we have articles for English clubs as far down as the tenth tier. A phoenix club in Italy would surely gain significant coverage if its team were successful in reaching the eighth tier so I think I'd like this to be saved as a draft until we see how they progress.
No Great Shaker (
talk)
13:39, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to A.C. ChievoVerona which already briefly discusses the club. Nfitz ( talk) 22:26, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.