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The result was delete. JohnCD ( talk) 09:35, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Eve de Leon Allen
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Unsourced BLP, fails WP:NACTOR. Green Cardamom ( t c) had nominated the page for A7, and I concurred and deleted the page, but the article creator contacted me to dispute my application of A7. I am bringing the issue here in lieu of sending it through DRV. — Darkwind ( talk) 20:20, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
- Leaning delete. I agree that A7 speedy deletion wasn't the best choice here: recurring roles in two notable TV series are enough to assert "significance or importance", especially since her Nuzzle and Scratch role is apparently a starring one. However, I've so far found very little to meet the tougher notability standard that we're using here at AfD: best I can find are brief namechecks at BleedingCool.com [1] and Digital Journal [2] mentioning her appearance on Doctor Who. That's not enough. Unless more turns up I'll have to !vote delete. -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 21:25, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
- Keep She did have a starring role in one significant TV series, and a significant role in a very well known series. PatGallacher ( talk) 23:24, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
- WP:NACTOR says "Has had significant roles in multiple notable .. television shows". Is 4 guest appearances on Dr. Who a "significant role"? There's a problem of lack of sourcing to pass WP:GNG - we know she exists and was in two television shows. -- Green Cardamom ( talk) 23:38, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000 (talk) 03:03, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
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- Delete I agree that this is a marginal case. But child actors fall into a special and difficult category because we do not know whether they will make a successful transition into adult roles even if they choose to try, and many do not. That is not to say that we should never have articles on the Hayley Mills of this world but there is a consensus that having a BLP in Wikipedia is for most people a burden, and especially for minors and those who choose to have moved on to other things in life. If she carries on being successful in acting there is no prejudice against a new article, but at present there is insufficient to indicate that she will be remembered as an actress other than by friends and family. -- AJHingston ( talk) 07:59, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- Delete TOO SOON. May be notable one day. Peterkingiron ( talk) 17:38, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:OUTCOMES. We usually have deleted barely notable child actors, out of an abundance of caution. FWIW, she does not appear to be related to my godmother. Bearian ( talk) 17:02, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- Delete Does not meet notability guidelines. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 23:51, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
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The result was delete. JohnCD ( talk) 09:35, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Eve de Leon Allen
- Eve de Leon Allen ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Unsourced BLP, fails WP:NACTOR. Green Cardamom ( t c) had nominated the page for A7, and I concurred and deleted the page, but the article creator contacted me to dispute my application of A7. I am bringing the issue here in lieu of sending it through DRV. — Darkwind ( talk) 20:20, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
- Leaning delete. I agree that A7 speedy deletion wasn't the best choice here: recurring roles in two notable TV series are enough to assert "significance or importance", especially since her Nuzzle and Scratch role is apparently a starring one. However, I've so far found very little to meet the tougher notability standard that we're using here at AfD: best I can find are brief namechecks at BleedingCool.com [1] and Digital Journal [2] mentioning her appearance on Doctor Who. That's not enough. Unless more turns up I'll have to !vote delete. -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 21:25, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
- Keep She did have a starring role in one significant TV series, and a significant role in a very well known series. PatGallacher ( talk) 23:24, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
- WP:NACTOR says "Has had significant roles in multiple notable .. television shows". Is 4 guest appearances on Dr. Who a "significant role"? There's a problem of lack of sourcing to pass WP:GNG - we know she exists and was in two television shows. -- Green Cardamom ( talk) 23:38, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000 (talk) 03:03, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000 (talk) 03:03, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- Delete I agree that this is a marginal case. But child actors fall into a special and difficult category because we do not know whether they will make a successful transition into adult roles even if they choose to try, and many do not. That is not to say that we should never have articles on the Hayley Mills of this world but there is a consensus that having a BLP in Wikipedia is for most people a burden, and especially for minors and those who choose to have moved on to other things in life. If she carries on being successful in acting there is no prejudice against a new article, but at present there is insufficient to indicate that she will be remembered as an actress other than by friends and family. -- AJHingston ( talk) 07:59, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- Delete TOO SOON. May be notable one day. Peterkingiron ( talk) 17:38, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:OUTCOMES. We usually have deleted barely notable child actors, out of an abundance of caution. FWIW, she does not appear to be related to my godmother. Bearian ( talk) 17:02, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- Delete Does not meet notability guidelines. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 23:51, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
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