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The result was delete. ST47 ( talk) 01:14, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
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Non-notable. Sources are a passing mention in an article about the term ero kakkoii and a dead link to a blog site. I was unable to find any reliable sources in either English or Japanese. SpicyMilkBoy ( talk) 19:17, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
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- Keep. I fixed the broken link and added references. I think that singer Kumi Koda, supposedly the originator of ero kawaii, has (or at least used to have) a lot of influence on Japanese fashion. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 21:47, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for your work, but I think there are some problems with these references. One of them is a duplicate of the Buzzword: ero kakkoii article that was already cited; two are self-published (Wordpress and Weebly sites); and neither the archived Uniorb link nor the The New Paper article actually mentions the term ero kawaii. The term might merit a mention on Kumi Koda's page, but I don't think there's enough coverage for an article. SpicyMilkBoy ( talk) 22:44, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Weak Keep - I was skeptical at first, as the term seemed to, at first glance, be a WP:NEOLOGISM that was coined by, and used exclusively to refer to, Koda Kumi. However, doing searches did bring up some results in various books on Japanese sub-cultures, though they were admittedly brief and little more than definitions. Looking for sources using the term "erokawa", however, brought up a few more, including this article. And while I don't have access to the journal, and did not pay the 14 dollars to view the online copy, it does show that there is genuine scholarly coverage of the sub-culture. Rorshacma ( talk) 22:52, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Delete: WP is not a dictionary. There is something here, but it's a Japanese neologism, without wide use, not an encyclopedic topic. In Japanese the expression is pretty transparent: it's as if someone described an English singer as "slinky-sexy", and this generated a WP:ja article on the "concept" of slinky-sexy. So I think there could or should be a debate on whether it merited an extry in wiktionary. Imaginatorium ( talk) 03:09, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
- Delete All of the cited sources seem questionable, and none of them actually describe it as a "subculture", several just describing it as a word. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 00:47, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
- Delete It is not well written and the subject is not notable. Barca ( talk) 18:26, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ST47 ( talk) 01:14, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
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Non-notable. Sources are a passing mention in an article about the term ero kakkoii and a dead link to a blog site. I was unable to find any reliable sources in either English or Japanese. SpicyMilkBoy ( talk) 19:17, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
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- Keep. I fixed the broken link and added references. I think that singer Kumi Koda, supposedly the originator of ero kawaii, has (or at least used to have) a lot of influence on Japanese fashion. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 21:47, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for your work, but I think there are some problems with these references. One of them is a duplicate of the Buzzword: ero kakkoii article that was already cited; two are self-published (Wordpress and Weebly sites); and neither the archived Uniorb link nor the The New Paper article actually mentions the term ero kawaii. The term might merit a mention on Kumi Koda's page, but I don't think there's enough coverage for an article. SpicyMilkBoy ( talk) 22:44, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Weak Keep - I was skeptical at first, as the term seemed to, at first glance, be a WP:NEOLOGISM that was coined by, and used exclusively to refer to, Koda Kumi. However, doing searches did bring up some results in various books on Japanese sub-cultures, though they were admittedly brief and little more than definitions. Looking for sources using the term "erokawa", however, brought up a few more, including this article. And while I don't have access to the journal, and did not pay the 14 dollars to view the online copy, it does show that there is genuine scholarly coverage of the sub-culture. Rorshacma ( talk) 22:52, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Delete: WP is not a dictionary. There is something here, but it's a Japanese neologism, without wide use, not an encyclopedic topic. In Japanese the expression is pretty transparent: it's as if someone described an English singer as "slinky-sexy", and this generated a WP:ja article on the "concept" of slinky-sexy. So I think there could or should be a debate on whether it merited an extry in wiktionary. Imaginatorium ( talk) 03:09, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
- Delete All of the cited sources seem questionable, and none of them actually describe it as a "subculture", several just describing it as a word. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 00:47, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
- Delete It is not well written and the subject is not notable. Barca ( talk) 18:26, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
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