The result was no consensus, note - this underlines how tricky a multiple listing can be. Unless subjects are identical (which does not describe a group of footballers from different clubs and countries) the results tend to be hard to read. This should not prejudice subsequent debates where single players from this nomination are relisted individually. For that reason I'll decline to place this result on the talk pages of all but the main nominee. Deizio talk 17:42, 20 December 2006 (UTC) reply
Also nominating Jonathan Minnock, Shane Bradley, David Bell (footballer), Anthony Gorman, Matthew Crossan, Tom Mohan, Marc Mukendi, Fergal Harkin. All of these are footballers who play or have played for Finn Harps F.C., a non-professional Irish club. None of them have played at professional level. Oldelpaso 22:52, 13 December 2006 (UTC) reply
These examples undoubtedly demonstrate notability if simply playing in the First Division of the League of Ireland does not suffice, which would astonish me if it didn't. There are numerous Irish GAA players with articles as they are of notable character, yet they have never played professionally for their counties as the GAA intentionally remains as an amateur organisation in order to maintain the spirit or idea of players playing for the love of the game rather than for money.-- HarpsBoy 07:22, 14 December 2006 (UTC) reply
The Wikiproject on football states, write articles on all notable players in each country. These players are deemed notable. Living in Ireland and fervently following the football season I know personally that these players are actual players and certainly meet the notability requirments. Again, people who nominate such articles are, for me the scourge of this site, possibly more so than Trolls. Ryannus 19:27, 14 December 2006 (UTC) reply
Although the team of most of these players currently rests in the First Division, all of these players have been, or are, members of a team at the highest level of football in the Republic of Ireland - that is, the Premier Division of the League of Ireland (bar Anthony Gorman, who played for Linfield FC (Northern Irish football's biggest club) and Matthew Crossan as far as I'm aware). The activities are notable without a doubt. The players feature both on national Irish television and local radio regularly.
Furthermore:
Marc Mukendi, who is on loan at
Finn Harps, is the member of
Derry City F.C., a professional side in the Premier Division, and has representented Ireland at under-age level. He can be seen in the
website of the
FAI (ninth player from top).
It is hard to fathom how Eloka Asokuh's winning of the under-17 World Cup with Nigeria may be deemed non-notable.
I have a feeling that Fergal Harkin may have represented Bohemian FC in European competition, and possibly Tom Mohan a few seasons ago when he was with Derry City. Maybe somebody can confirm these as I'm not wholly sure.
Jonathan Minnock played with Shelbourne F.C., who are the top team in modern Irish football as far as achievements go. Possibly, he also represented them in Europe that season. This would need confirmation also.-- Danny Invincible 00:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC) reply
The term, "every country", obviously includes the Republic of Ireland and seeing as the vast majority of these players have played at the highest standard possible in the League of Ireland, their articles surely have a part to play in achieving the stated goal.-- Danny Invincible 01:38, 16 December 2006 (UTC) reply
The result was no consensus, note - this underlines how tricky a multiple listing can be. Unless subjects are identical (which does not describe a group of footballers from different clubs and countries) the results tend to be hard to read. This should not prejudice subsequent debates where single players from this nomination are relisted individually. For that reason I'll decline to place this result on the talk pages of all but the main nominee. Deizio talk 17:42, 20 December 2006 (UTC) reply
Also nominating Jonathan Minnock, Shane Bradley, David Bell (footballer), Anthony Gorman, Matthew Crossan, Tom Mohan, Marc Mukendi, Fergal Harkin. All of these are footballers who play or have played for Finn Harps F.C., a non-professional Irish club. None of them have played at professional level. Oldelpaso 22:52, 13 December 2006 (UTC) reply
These examples undoubtedly demonstrate notability if simply playing in the First Division of the League of Ireland does not suffice, which would astonish me if it didn't. There are numerous Irish GAA players with articles as they are of notable character, yet they have never played professionally for their counties as the GAA intentionally remains as an amateur organisation in order to maintain the spirit or idea of players playing for the love of the game rather than for money.-- HarpsBoy 07:22, 14 December 2006 (UTC) reply
The Wikiproject on football states, write articles on all notable players in each country. These players are deemed notable. Living in Ireland and fervently following the football season I know personally that these players are actual players and certainly meet the notability requirments. Again, people who nominate such articles are, for me the scourge of this site, possibly more so than Trolls. Ryannus 19:27, 14 December 2006 (UTC) reply
Although the team of most of these players currently rests in the First Division, all of these players have been, or are, members of a team at the highest level of football in the Republic of Ireland - that is, the Premier Division of the League of Ireland (bar Anthony Gorman, who played for Linfield FC (Northern Irish football's biggest club) and Matthew Crossan as far as I'm aware). The activities are notable without a doubt. The players feature both on national Irish television and local radio regularly.
Furthermore:
Marc Mukendi, who is on loan at
Finn Harps, is the member of
Derry City F.C., a professional side in the Premier Division, and has representented Ireland at under-age level. He can be seen in the
website of the
FAI (ninth player from top).
It is hard to fathom how Eloka Asokuh's winning of the under-17 World Cup with Nigeria may be deemed non-notable.
I have a feeling that Fergal Harkin may have represented Bohemian FC in European competition, and possibly Tom Mohan a few seasons ago when he was with Derry City. Maybe somebody can confirm these as I'm not wholly sure.
Jonathan Minnock played with Shelbourne F.C., who are the top team in modern Irish football as far as achievements go. Possibly, he also represented them in Europe that season. This would need confirmation also.-- Danny Invincible 00:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC) reply
The term, "every country", obviously includes the Republic of Ireland and seeing as the vast majority of these players have played at the highest standard possible in the League of Ireland, their articles surely have a part to play in achieving the stated goal.-- Danny Invincible 01:38, 16 December 2006 (UTC) reply