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The result was no consensus. – Joe ( talk) 17:24, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
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This was soft deleted about a year ago on the basis that at best it lacked the required verifiable evidence to show notability, if not failing WP:GNG outright. Not much has changed in the intervening time. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 23:45, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability, no Farsi sources provided to show notability, so until they are I have to delete. If anything is found please ping me. Giant Snowman 16:56, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
- Keep - the previous AFD noted that article that was deleted was unsourced. This article was created after that deletion, and has a source. There's also additional sources listed in . I've improved the citation of the Farsi source that already existed in the article - perhaps it wasn't opening due to a formatting issue in the URL? User:GiantSnowman can you review again? Nfitz ( talk) 04:37, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- Note, a lot of the sources in the Farsi version are stale ... but should be findable. I sorted out one from 2012 and added it to the article ... but there's no end of other recent media about this, such as
last month. Here's a
Google Search if someone wants to add more.
Nfitz (
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05:00, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- The 2 sources added are both extremely short and do not show significant coverage. `
Giant
Snowman
- What about the one Farsi source that's been in the article since it was created over a year ago? Nfitz ( talk) 14:39, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- The 2 sources added are both extremely short and do not show significant coverage. `
Giant
Snowman
- Note, a lot of the sources in the Farsi version are stale ... but should be findable. I sorted out one from 2012 and added it to the article ... but there's no end of other recent media about this, such as
last month. Here's a
Google Search if someone wants to add more.
Nfitz (
talk)
05:00, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- Because both clubs and the league they play in are notable, sources like this that merely recount match results, don't demonstrate independent notability of the rivalry. I would expect to see this sort of coverage for any two clubs that have played long enough in a sufficiently well covered league. If there's enough shared sporting history, some sports journalist is going to write this type of article sooner or later, whether there's a rivalry between the clubs in question or not. None of the coverage I've seen covers the rivalry itself in sufficient detail. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 17:00, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
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- Keep and move to Gilan Derby AzeriCux ( talk) 16:12, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
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- Keep per above. REDMAN 2019 ( talk) 13:02, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
- Care to explain what you actually mean by the above? There's enough back and forth that your meaning is not clear. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 14:24, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. – Joe ( talk) 17:24, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
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This was soft deleted about a year ago on the basis that at best it lacked the required verifiable evidence to show notability, if not failing WP:GNG outright. Not much has changed in the intervening time. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 23:45, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 23:45, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 23:45, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability, no Farsi sources provided to show notability, so until they are I have to delete. If anything is found please ping me. Giant Snowman 16:56, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
- Keep - the previous AFD noted that article that was deleted was unsourced. This article was created after that deletion, and has a source. There's also additional sources listed in . I've improved the citation of the Farsi source that already existed in the article - perhaps it wasn't opening due to a formatting issue in the URL? User:GiantSnowman can you review again? Nfitz ( talk) 04:37, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- Note, a lot of the sources in the Farsi version are stale ... but should be findable. I sorted out one from 2012 and added it to the article ... but there's no end of other recent media about this, such as
last month. Here's a
Google Search if someone wants to add more.
Nfitz (
talk)
05:00, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- The 2 sources added are both extremely short and do not show significant coverage. `
Giant
Snowman
- What about the one Farsi source that's been in the article since it was created over a year ago? Nfitz ( talk) 14:39, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- The 2 sources added are both extremely short and do not show significant coverage. `
Giant
Snowman
- Note, a lot of the sources in the Farsi version are stale ... but should be findable. I sorted out one from 2012 and added it to the article ... but there's no end of other recent media about this, such as
last month. Here's a
Google Search if someone wants to add more.
Nfitz (
talk)
05:00, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- Because both clubs and the league they play in are notable, sources like this that merely recount match results, don't demonstrate independent notability of the rivalry. I would expect to see this sort of coverage for any two clubs that have played long enough in a sufficiently well covered league. If there's enough shared sporting history, some sports journalist is going to write this type of article sooner or later, whether there's a rivalry between the clubs in question or not. None of the coverage I've seen covers the rivalry itself in sufficient detail. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 17:00, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down ( talk) 06:29, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down ( talk) 06:29, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
- Keep and move to Gilan Derby AzeriCux ( talk) 16:12, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down ( talk) 08:50, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down ( talk) 08:50, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per above. REDMAN 2019 ( talk) 13:02, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
- Care to explain what you actually mean by the above? There's enough back and forth that your meaning is not clear. Sir Sputnik ( talk) 14:24, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.