The result was Delete. -- VS talk 00:06, 13 January 2008 (UTC) reply
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Procedural nomination, failed prod. Does not meet WP:WEB notability requirements: has not been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works, won a well-known and independent award, or distributed via a medium which is both respected and independent of the creators. Article has been tagged requiring references since November 2007.
Speedy deletion was declined in October 2006 with reason "podcast is hosted by notable people". However, inclusion requirements are that the web content itself must be notable, not just the producers (alternative would be to merge content into Tom Merritt and Roger Chang articles).
Another reason for contesting prod on talk page was that due to the self-publishing nature of podcasts they have difficulty achieving notability requrements. This is an WP:OTHERSTUFF argument, and does not cover why this podcast is notable. There are many other shows out there that do meet notability requirements, and keep in mind only one of the three criterion are required for WP:WEB. Thanks. Breno talk 16:49, 4 January 2008 (UTC) reply
::*Comment The wording for
WP:WEB has explicitly listed podcasts within its scope since
January 2006. Browsing the talk page
October 2007 it was brought up weither iTunes and other "host" websites should be considered respected and/or indepentent of a podcast. The discussion over there has been left open since. Getting back to East Meets West, regardless of WEB this article still completely lacks
WP:RS reliable sources. As
WP:V policy clearly states; If no reliable, third-party sources can be found for an article topic, Wikipedia should not have an article on it. I think I now rest my case on this one. Kind regards. --
Breno
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15:08, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
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On a related note according to Wikipedia:WikiProject_Podcasting "For a podcast to be notable, it must have at least two of the following requirements:
EMW passes #1 (
http://digg.com/search?search=east+meets+west§ion=podcasts&process=1) and #4. They don't list feedburner stats on their webpage but I've heard them discuss listener numbers on the podcast and if I recall correctly it was over 100 as well which would mean that #1 is passed twice. As I've argued repeatedly, #2 is almost impossible for the average podcast to meet and not everyone wants to meet #3. -
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20:54, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
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The result was Delete. -- VS talk 00:06, 13 January 2008 (UTC) reply
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Procedural nomination, failed prod. Does not meet WP:WEB notability requirements: has not been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works, won a well-known and independent award, or distributed via a medium which is both respected and independent of the creators. Article has been tagged requiring references since November 2007.
Speedy deletion was declined in October 2006 with reason "podcast is hosted by notable people". However, inclusion requirements are that the web content itself must be notable, not just the producers (alternative would be to merge content into Tom Merritt and Roger Chang articles).
Another reason for contesting prod on talk page was that due to the self-publishing nature of podcasts they have difficulty achieving notability requrements. This is an WP:OTHERSTUFF argument, and does not cover why this podcast is notable. There are many other shows out there that do meet notability requirements, and keep in mind only one of the three criterion are required for WP:WEB. Thanks. Breno talk 16:49, 4 January 2008 (UTC) reply
::*Comment The wording for
WP:WEB has explicitly listed podcasts within its scope since
January 2006. Browsing the talk page
October 2007 it was brought up weither iTunes and other "host" websites should be considered respected and/or indepentent of a podcast. The discussion over there has been left open since. Getting back to East Meets West, regardless of WEB this article still completely lacks
WP:RS reliable sources. As
WP:V policy clearly states; If no reliable, third-party sources can be found for an article topic, Wikipedia should not have an article on it. I think I now rest my case on this one. Kind regards. --
Breno
talk
15:08, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
reply
On a related note according to Wikipedia:WikiProject_Podcasting "For a podcast to be notable, it must have at least two of the following requirements:
EMW passes #1 (
http://digg.com/search?search=east+meets+west§ion=podcasts&process=1) and #4. They don't list feedburner stats on their webpage but I've heard them discuss listener numbers on the podcast and if I recall correctly it was over 100 as well which would mean that #1 is passed twice. As I've argued repeatedly, #2 is almost impossible for the average podcast to meet and not everyone wants to meet #3. -
Hansonc (
talk)
20:54, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
reply