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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 20:59, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
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In the same way as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Driving licence in Brunei, this article falls under WP:NOTGUIDE, paragraph 9. Textbook example of a non-encyclopedic WP:CFORK.
I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reason (ie they fall under WP:NOTGUIDE, paragraph 9):
- Driving licence in Sweden ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Driving licence in Ukraine ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Driving licence in Bulgaria ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Driving licence in Croatia ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Driving licence in Cyprus ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Driving licence in Denmark ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Driving licence in Albania ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
BilletsMauves €500 16:34, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Spain-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 17:13, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep I cannot share your concerns. There’s no step-by-step guide or similar, and I don’t know of which article this should be a content fork of. National regulations regarding a driver’s license do differ among EU member states. ‑‑ K ( 🗪 | ✍) 17:16, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete all, for the reason I've given in relation to Brunei. The proper place to look for such information is the official document published by the relevant country. An encyclopaedia entry cannot reasonably be expected to be completely up to date. (The UK regulations have changed with Brexit: who can be certain that Albania hasn't modified its rules in the past week?) A single article might be OK, listing the countries, for each one giving a link to the official information, and perhaps making a brief mention of any unusual characteristics. Athel cb ( talk) 17:45, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep The few I've skimmed through don't feel like manuals. As long as the pages are being maintained, I think the information is useful for folks utilizing the site. Most people know to confirm with their local government, but for the casual reader or person doing research, navigating to a for country's motor vehicle page isn't ideal. Nearly every article on this site has the propensity to change on a whim, that's why there are editors and WikiProjects to try and stay on top of them. Lindsey40186 ( talk) 18:14, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep There are 26 articles about Driving licence in countries in Europe. The nomination is about 8 of them. This shows the nomination is not about notability of the subjects, but of contents of these articles. We could modify them to match what User:BilletsMauves wants to have in them. We don't delete articles due to grammar faults, we improve them.-- BIL ( talk) 18:53, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep all as many sources write about the subjects. Up-to-date content should of course be checked with the relevant licencing authority, but our job is not that, it is to provide an encycopedic overview that should include history. For example my father, until he died at the age of 94 in 2004, had a UK driving licence although he never took a driving test - that was not required until some time in the 1930s. All of these articles can have similar sourced history added to them, so they should not be deleted, and I wish I had noticed the Brunei discussion because I would have said something similar there. Phil Bridger ( talk) 18:36, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep all per above. Has evident potential encyclopedic value. Cheers, Dan the Animator 03:27, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep all, everything was already mentioned, so I do not need to repeat it all again. The artilces I took a look at are, in my opinion, not manuals or instructions. There are a lot more of articles about driving licences and I do not understand why only these were nominated for deletion and not all of them? It is better to improve articles and not instantly delete them. Only some articles, such as Driving licence in Albania, should be a bit better sourced. Best regards, Koreanovsky ( talk) 15:08, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 20:59, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
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- Driving licence in Spain ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
In the same way as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Driving licence in Brunei, this article falls under WP:NOTGUIDE, paragraph 9. Textbook example of a non-encyclopedic WP:CFORK.
I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reason (ie they fall under WP:NOTGUIDE, paragraph 9):
- Driving licence in Sweden ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Driving licence in Ukraine ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Driving licence in Bulgaria ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Driving licence in Croatia ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Driving licence in Cyprus ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Driving licence in Denmark ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Driving licence in Albania ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
BilletsMauves €500 16:34, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Spain-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 17:13, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep I cannot share your concerns. There’s no step-by-step guide or similar, and I don’t know of which article this should be a content fork of. National regulations regarding a driver’s license do differ among EU member states. ‑‑ K ( 🗪 | ✍) 17:16, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete all, for the reason I've given in relation to Brunei. The proper place to look for such information is the official document published by the relevant country. An encyclopaedia entry cannot reasonably be expected to be completely up to date. (The UK regulations have changed with Brexit: who can be certain that Albania hasn't modified its rules in the past week?) A single article might be OK, listing the countries, for each one giving a link to the official information, and perhaps making a brief mention of any unusual characteristics. Athel cb ( talk) 17:45, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep The few I've skimmed through don't feel like manuals. As long as the pages are being maintained, I think the information is useful for folks utilizing the site. Most people know to confirm with their local government, but for the casual reader or person doing research, navigating to a for country's motor vehicle page isn't ideal. Nearly every article on this site has the propensity to change on a whim, that's why there are editors and WikiProjects to try and stay on top of them. Lindsey40186 ( talk) 18:14, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep There are 26 articles about Driving licence in countries in Europe. The nomination is about 8 of them. This shows the nomination is not about notability of the subjects, but of contents of these articles. We could modify them to match what User:BilletsMauves wants to have in them. We don't delete articles due to grammar faults, we improve them.-- BIL ( talk) 18:53, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep all as many sources write about the subjects. Up-to-date content should of course be checked with the relevant licencing authority, but our job is not that, it is to provide an encycopedic overview that should include history. For example my father, until he died at the age of 94 in 2004, had a UK driving licence although he never took a driving test - that was not required until some time in the 1930s. All of these articles can have similar sourced history added to them, so they should not be deleted, and I wish I had noticed the Brunei discussion because I would have said something similar there. Phil Bridger ( talk) 18:36, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep all per above. Has evident potential encyclopedic value. Cheers, Dan the Animator 03:27, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep all, everything was already mentioned, so I do not need to repeat it all again. The artilces I took a look at are, in my opinion, not manuals or instructions. There are a lot more of articles about driving licences and I do not understand why only these were nominated for deletion and not all of them? It is better to improve articles and not instantly delete them. Only some articles, such as Driving licence in Albania, should be a bit better sourced. Best regards, Koreanovsky ( talk) 15:08, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.