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The result was delete. Deleting based on rationale below. Thanks everyone for your participation and assuming good faith! Missvain ( talk) 16:27, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
Door of Night
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Non-notable fictional location. Is referenced on Google scholar a few times, but most appear to be in passing in and in the context of a plot summary. Many of them quote the exact same phrase: " Éarendel sprang from the Ocean's cup. In the gloom of the mid-world's rim; From the door of night as a ..." Another article, in Tolkien Studies mentions this door in the context of speculation that it is the same thing as the "portals of the sunset." Not much in secondary RS to build an article from. Hog Farm ( talk) 15:24, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Hog Farm ( talk) 15:24, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
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- Comment The previous AfD is not relevant to this one, it ended with a history merge of a redirect with this name so that this article could be produced in 2008. Hog Farm ( talk) 16:03, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete This door is a very minor part of Tolkien's legendarium. ― Susmuffin Talk 18:08, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete This is way beyond the scope of any of Tolkien's works. It is never even hinted at in either LotR or the Hobbit. I do not think it is even mentioned in the Silmarillion, but if it is not in a major way. We should not be creating articles on everything mentioned in a writers marginal notes. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 19:49, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Passing mentions in Tolkien's writings don't warrant an article. Clarityfiend ( talk) 20:16, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete as per nomination. TH1980 ( talk) 19:54, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Very obscure.-- Jack Upland ( talk) 23:21, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Deleting based on rationale below. Thanks everyone for your participation and assuming good faith! Missvain ( talk) 16:27, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
Door of Night
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Non-notable fictional location. Is referenced on Google scholar a few times, but most appear to be in passing in and in the context of a plot summary. Many of them quote the exact same phrase: " Éarendel sprang from the Ocean's cup. In the gloom of the mid-world's rim; From the door of night as a ..." Another article, in Tolkien Studies mentions this door in the context of speculation that it is the same thing as the "portals of the sunset." Not much in secondary RS to build an article from. Hog Farm ( talk) 15:24, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Hog Farm ( talk) 15:24, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science fiction and fantasy-related deletion discussions. Hog Farm ( talk) 15:24, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Hog Farm ( talk) 15:24, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- Comment The previous AfD is not relevant to this one, it ended with a history merge of a redirect with this name so that this article could be produced in 2008. Hog Farm ( talk) 16:03, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete This door is a very minor part of Tolkien's legendarium. ― Susmuffin Talk 18:08, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete This is way beyond the scope of any of Tolkien's works. It is never even hinted at in either LotR or the Hobbit. I do not think it is even mentioned in the Silmarillion, but if it is not in a major way. We should not be creating articles on everything mentioned in a writers marginal notes. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 19:49, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Passing mentions in Tolkien's writings don't warrant an article. Clarityfiend ( talk) 20:16, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete as per nomination. TH1980 ( talk) 19:54, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Very obscure.-- Jack Upland ( talk) 23:21, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.