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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Exemplo347 ( talk) 09:30, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
Dennis Roady
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unremarkable YouTube personality Mjbmr ( talk) 03:25, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
- Comment. Please see my comment at another AfD started by this user. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 04:09, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
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- Delete -- not notable as a YouTuber or an actor; sources are interviews or tabloid-like coverage, not amounting to SIGCOV. K.e.coffman ( talk) 04:48, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: If an editor has any concerns regarding the behavior of AfD participants, then please report it on the appropriate noticeboards.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh ( talk) 00:56, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
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- Keep Power~enwiki ( talk) 02:59, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
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- Comment please note comments on my user and talk page regarding notability for Youtube celebrities. His videos get >100k on a regular basis, and >2 million in some cases. Power~enwiki ( talk) 08:07, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
- No. of subscribers doesn't make someone notable, point me to a source that mentions him directly and his work, also see other AfDs:
1
2
3
4
5,
Comatmebro
Hawkeye75
K.e.coffman ping, please also see ongoing related AfDs:
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stuart Edge and
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jaclyn Hales.
Mjbmr (
talk) 09:02, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
- There are sources which appear to do that (from a quick skim-through) in the references section of the article. As far as the relevance of the other outcomes you've cited, the rationales advanced for deletion there would seem to be other than that which you're using here. And unless someone can disabuse me of the notion, I see no guidelines either way in terms of what constitutes notability for a Youtube celebrity. I can see in one of the AfDs you've cited that you were advised that a "battleground mentality" isn't the best spirit in which to be conducting yourself, and I'll repeat that advice here. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 10:13, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
- No. of subscribers doesn't make someone notable, point me to a source that mentions him directly and his work, also see other AfDs:
1
2
3
4
5,
Comatmebro
Hawkeye75
K.e.coffman ping, please also see ongoing related AfDs:
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stuart Edge and
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jaclyn Hales.
Mjbmr (
talk) 09:02, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
- Weak keep - While number of subscribers does not determine notability, the independent coverage on the subject is enough to pass GNG. TheGracefulSlick ( talk) 20:59, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
- Keep - Sourced, notable. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 00:22, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- Comment: Beyond My Ken Power~enwiki TheGracefulSlick please give your opinion on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/BigDawsTv too, that one related. Mjbmr ( talk) 04:09, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- Comment: I've been
canvassed to give my opinion here by
Mjbmr and as such, I will
pointedly not do so. I do not approve of canvassing.
Waggie (
talk) 05:03, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- Waggie I'm not sure why want BigDawsTv to be deleted but cleary not taking my action on this one so to keep Dennis Roady, which the first one cleary has more resources. I wanted to clarify people on Wikipedia are ambushing not based on any policy. Mjbmr ( talk) 05:18, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- Weak Keep - 3.5 million subscribers - which surpasses some TV stations. Coverage exists - as per quick source check. Perhaps frivolous subject matter, but there is place for the frivolous too. Note that
Mjbmr is engaging here in
WP:POINT vs. his own Youtube personality creations (and to be fair, he has a bit of a point with the "open youtuber season on AFD" lately - but many of the deletes were warranted).
Icewhiz (
talk) 07:56, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- Note - I a well aware that subscription counts do not make one notable. Nor does wealth, revenue, and other size metrics. This is however a benchmark that is useful in assessing subject matter - and I for one take a more lenient approach (in regards to assessing the possible existence of sources) - when I see a Youtuber with millions of subscribers compared to one with tens of thousands (or a billionaire vs. a businessman with 5-20 million dollars). Icewhiz ( talk) 08:01, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Not enough valid thirty-party sources, and the page is a mess. TH1980 ( talk) 00:40, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
- Note to closer - Blatant WP:CANVASS by the nom occurred with this AfD, [1] including of the previous "Delete" !vote. -- Oakshade ( talk) 03:05, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Not enough reliable sources. Kind Tennis Fan ( talk) 05:24, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
- Keep meets WP:ENT, covered in multiple news articles, although most are with Atwood / Natural Born Pranksters, some cover Roady, especially when it comes to his auto show pranks [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 00:47, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Exemplo347 ( talk) 09:30, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
Dennis Roady
- Dennis Roady ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
unremarkable YouTube personality Mjbmr ( talk) 03:25, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
- Comment. Please see my comment at another AfD started by this user. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 04:09, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 01:57, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 01:57, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 01:57, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ohio-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 01:57, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
- Delete -- not notable as a YouTuber or an actor; sources are interviews or tabloid-like coverage, not amounting to SIGCOV. K.e.coffman ( talk) 04:48, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: If an editor has any concerns regarding the behavior of AfD participants, then please report it on the appropriate noticeboards.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh ( talk) 00:56, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
Relisting comment: If an editor has any concerns regarding the behavior of AfD participants, then please report it on the appropriate noticeboards.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh ( talk) 00:56, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
- Keep Power~enwiki ( talk) 02:59, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
|
| If you came here because someone asked you to, or you read a message on another website, please note that this is
not a majority vote, but instead a discussion among Wikipedia contributors. Wikipedia has
policies and guidelines regarding the encyclopedia's content, and
consensus (agreement) is gauged based on the merits of the arguments, not by counting votes.
However, you are invited to participate and your opinion is welcome. Remember to assume good faith on the part of others and to sign your posts on this page by adding ~~~~ at the end. Note: Comments may be tagged as follows: suspected single-purpose accounts:{{subst:
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csp|username}}. |
- Comment please note comments on my user and talk page regarding notability for Youtube celebrities. His videos get >100k on a regular basis, and >2 million in some cases. Power~enwiki ( talk) 08:07, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
- No. of subscribers doesn't make someone notable, point me to a source that mentions him directly and his work, also see other AfDs:
1
2
3
4
5,
Comatmebro
Hawkeye75
K.e.coffman ping, please also see ongoing related AfDs:
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stuart Edge and
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jaclyn Hales.
Mjbmr (
talk) 09:02, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
- There are sources which appear to do that (from a quick skim-through) in the references section of the article. As far as the relevance of the other outcomes you've cited, the rationales advanced for deletion there would seem to be other than that which you're using here. And unless someone can disabuse me of the notion, I see no guidelines either way in terms of what constitutes notability for a Youtube celebrity. I can see in one of the AfDs you've cited that you were advised that a "battleground mentality" isn't the best spirit in which to be conducting yourself, and I'll repeat that advice here. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 10:13, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
- No. of subscribers doesn't make someone notable, point me to a source that mentions him directly and his work, also see other AfDs:
1
2
3
4
5,
Comatmebro
Hawkeye75
K.e.coffman ping, please also see ongoing related AfDs:
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stuart Edge and
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jaclyn Hales.
Mjbmr (
talk) 09:02, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
- Weak keep - While number of subscribers does not determine notability, the independent coverage on the subject is enough to pass GNG. TheGracefulSlick ( talk) 20:59, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
- Keep - Sourced, notable. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 00:22, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- Comment: Beyond My Ken Power~enwiki TheGracefulSlick please give your opinion on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/BigDawsTv too, that one related. Mjbmr ( talk) 04:09, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- Comment: I've been
canvassed to give my opinion here by
Mjbmr and as such, I will
pointedly not do so. I do not approve of canvassing.
Waggie (
talk) 05:03, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- Waggie I'm not sure why want BigDawsTv to be deleted but cleary not taking my action on this one so to keep Dennis Roady, which the first one cleary has more resources. I wanted to clarify people on Wikipedia are ambushing not based on any policy. Mjbmr ( talk) 05:18, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- Weak Keep - 3.5 million subscribers - which surpasses some TV stations. Coverage exists - as per quick source check. Perhaps frivolous subject matter, but there is place for the frivolous too. Note that
Mjbmr is engaging here in
WP:POINT vs. his own Youtube personality creations (and to be fair, he has a bit of a point with the "open youtuber season on AFD" lately - but many of the deletes were warranted).
Icewhiz (
talk) 07:56, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- Note - I a well aware that subscription counts do not make one notable. Nor does wealth, revenue, and other size metrics. This is however a benchmark that is useful in assessing subject matter - and I for one take a more lenient approach (in regards to assessing the possible existence of sources) - when I see a Youtuber with millions of subscribers compared to one with tens of thousands (or a billionaire vs. a businessman with 5-20 million dollars). Icewhiz ( talk) 08:01, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Not enough valid thirty-party sources, and the page is a mess. TH1980 ( talk) 00:40, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
- Note to closer - Blatant WP:CANVASS by the nom occurred with this AfD, [1] including of the previous "Delete" !vote. -- Oakshade ( talk) 03:05, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Not enough reliable sources. Kind Tennis Fan ( talk) 05:24, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
- Keep meets WP:ENT, covered in multiple news articles, although most are with Atwood / Natural Born Pranksters, some cover Roady, especially when it comes to his auto show pranks [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 00:47, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.