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The result was delete‎. ✗ plicit 03:31, 31 May 2023 (UTC) reply

Deborah Wilkins

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In a BEFORE search, I was unable to find anything online about this artist born in 1952 - there is another Deborah Wilkins born much earlier but that is a different person. None of the the sources are verifiable, and I'm wondering if it may be a WP:HOAX due to the fact that the first citation does not mention her at all; the second one is an erroneous DOI for a non-existent journal, and the third is about medical equipment in a Emergency Medicine journal that is not about art at all. Nevertheless, she does not meet WP:GNG nor WP:NARTIST. Bringing it here for the community to decide. Netherzone ( talk) 02:47, 24 May 2023 (UTC) reply

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Artists, Women, Arts, Visual arts, and California. Netherzone ( talk) 02:47, 24 May 2023 (UTC) reply
• Delete - no real assertion of notability. Someone is not explaining things properly to the students on wikiedu.org/courses/Hunter_College_CUNY/20th_Century_African_American_Art_(Spring_2023) Johnbod ( talk) 02:54, 24 May 2023 (UTC) reply

  I'm sure she does exist though. A google search on ""Deborah Wilkins" African-American art -wikipedia" finds stuff, including images of the art (some seem to be the same sites the article uses). Johnbod ( talk) 12:58, 24 May 2023 (UTC) reply

  Comment - When I download the first citation [1] I get an academic journal article, and when I search the article, I'm not finding anything about her. In searching "Deborah Wilkins artist" I find a "Deborah Wilkins - Artist - Self Employed" (on LinkedIn, not a reliable source) but they are an Australian artist, not an American self employed artist, I also find a costume maker, a AKC dog show judge, a real estate agent, a lawyer, some historical engravings of a 19th c. UK woman with the same name [2]. When I search using your terms Johnbod, I find an image caption here: [3], a collectibles site [4], and this, which seems to be an unsearchable book [5] by the same name as the academic journal article who seems to be this Deborah Wilkins, which is hopeful. But I'm not having any luck with the other two citations. I won't object to withdrawing the nom if SIGCOV or notable museum collections are found, or it may be a case of WP:TNT or draftify. Netherzone ( talk) 15:04, 24 May 2023 (UTC) reply

  Yes, I notice her name is spelled "Debra Wilkins" in the exhibition brochure you link to, not that that seems to produce much more. The book she illustrated is here. Johnbod ( talk) 19:48, 24 May 2023 (UTC) reply

• Delete. I also found that the first reference (invoked 5 times) does not mention Deborah Wilkins at all, and that the second citation is a dead link. I am not finding her in the third citation (Cervical immobilization collars) either. I am not finding anything online to substantiate the information in the article. As noted above, this is class assignment. I see that posting to the main space is a requirement with scant vetting. ProfBlkArt needs to rethink the structure of this course. WomenArtistUpdates ( talk) 20:50, 24 May 2023 (UTC) reply
• Comment - I think the problem with this article and several other from this class is that the students are referencing the academic article "Forever Free": Art by African-American Women, 1862-1980 an Exhibition by Susan Willand Worteck published in Feminist Studies rather than the exhibition catalog Forever Free: Art by African-American Women, 1862-1980 edited by Arna Alexander Bontemps. The catalogue is 214 pages and probably has biographical information on the forty-nine artists included in the show. I will drop another message on the professor's page and the talk pages of the articles where the mistake is made. Many of her students grabbed the first citation that came up in Google. WomenArtistUpdates ( talk) 00:09, 26 May 2023 (UTC) reply

  And it seems that this student added citations that maybe mentioned a Deborah Wilkins but not the right one (as with the Medical Equipment Journal citation). It's time consuming for other editors to clean up after students who do not complete their assignments correctly, and personally, I don't think that they should be required to publish poor quality drafts to main space, they should remain in draft space. IMO, there needs to be more oversight from the educational institution or WikiEd. Netherzone ( talk) 14:58, 26 May 2023 (UTC) reply

• Delete. Another non-N bio brought to you by yet another Wiki Ed. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Viola M. Woods from the same student. 128.252.154.1 ( talk) 21:38, 26 May 2023 (UTC) reply

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