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The result was keep. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:05, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
Danny Dietz
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Sad but fails WP:MILNG. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 10:22, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
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Comment I started editing here on the Wikipedia last year and started off by uploading this article, I wasn't aware of there being separate NG for this category until today, so I got right into editing it, I've read through the notability guideline you've linked and I understand why this article is being nominated for deletion, but is there a way I could save this article? I'm not trying to boast or argue in any way but I spent alot of time researching off the Wikipedia and editing this draft and it eventually passed through the AFC review, which I still don't understand how it did either because I thought the reviewer would've known that the criteria was not met from the beginning. Delta fiver ( talk) (UTC) 11:29, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia Delta fiver! I think you've done an impressive job. Consider joining Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history! WP:Articles for deletion is all about mustering the right arguments with your fellow editors, based on our corpus of policies, guidelines and essays. Don't panic ( WP:OHNO)! have some popcorn. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 00:24, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to Operation Red Wings. Fails WP:SOLDIER and I don't believe that he has WP:SIGCOV in multiple WP:RS to meet WP:GNG. Of the other members of the Operation Red Wings team Michael P. Murphy was awarded the MoH and has had multiple things names after him, Marcus Luttrell survived and has SIGCOV, while Matthew Axelson is just a redirect to Operation Red Wings. Mztourist ( talk) 11:41, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep I believe that it does pass
WP:SOLDIER: Played an important role in a significant military event such as a major battle or campaign. In this case,
Operation Red Wings. In addition, he was a major character in a movie, has a road named after him, and there is a statue of him. I think this all amounts to
WP:SIGCOV in multiple
WP:RS to meet
WP:GNG.
Hawkeye7
(discuss)
00:24, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Comment was Operation Red Wings a "major battle or campaign"? Or just a minor skirmish elevated in US sources to justify their large loss of life? Mztourist ( talk) 03:35, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Comment Although at first it wasn't the intention, operation Redwings eventually became a campaign for the destruction of the local militia and Ahmad Shah, which eventually started operation whalers that forced Shah and his remaining fighters to leave the region and retreat to Pakistan. Delta fiver ( talk) (UTC) 08:16, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Definitely passes GNG, could pass WP:SOLDIER because of his role in Operation Red Wings. A quick newspapers.com search comes up with tons of stuff. There is an annual rodeo in his name, there is a statue, there is the movie role, there is a road named for him. This is definitely significant coverage, and there are literally hundreds of secondary, reliable sources that cover him. Jacona ( talk) 03:13, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
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- Keep There's a highway named after him, a strong indication of notability, as generally only notable people get highways named after them. If someone sees the signs along the highway indicating the Petty Officer Danny Dietz Memorial Highway they may want to find out more about him, and the article fulfills this. Jeffrey Beall (talk) 15:45, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. He won the Navy's highest stand-alone medal, and has a highway named after him. Bearian ( talk) 17:52, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:05, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
Danny Dietz
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Sad but fails WP:MILNG. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 10:22, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
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Comment I started editing here on the Wikipedia last year and started off by uploading this article, I wasn't aware of there being separate NG for this category until today, so I got right into editing it, I've read through the notability guideline you've linked and I understand why this article is being nominated for deletion, but is there a way I could save this article? I'm not trying to boast or argue in any way but I spent alot of time researching off the Wikipedia and editing this draft and it eventually passed through the AFC review, which I still don't understand how it did either because I thought the reviewer would've known that the criteria was not met from the beginning. Delta fiver ( talk) (UTC) 11:29, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia Delta fiver! I think you've done an impressive job. Consider joining Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history! WP:Articles for deletion is all about mustering the right arguments with your fellow editors, based on our corpus of policies, guidelines and essays. Don't panic ( WP:OHNO)! have some popcorn. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 00:24, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to Operation Red Wings. Fails WP:SOLDIER and I don't believe that he has WP:SIGCOV in multiple WP:RS to meet WP:GNG. Of the other members of the Operation Red Wings team Michael P. Murphy was awarded the MoH and has had multiple things names after him, Marcus Luttrell survived and has SIGCOV, while Matthew Axelson is just a redirect to Operation Red Wings. Mztourist ( talk) 11:41, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep I believe that it does pass
WP:SOLDIER: Played an important role in a significant military event such as a major battle or campaign. In this case,
Operation Red Wings. In addition, he was a major character in a movie, has a road named after him, and there is a statue of him. I think this all amounts to
WP:SIGCOV in multiple
WP:RS to meet
WP:GNG.
Hawkeye7
(discuss)
00:24, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Comment was Operation Red Wings a "major battle or campaign"? Or just a minor skirmish elevated in US sources to justify their large loss of life? Mztourist ( talk) 03:35, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Comment Although at first it wasn't the intention, operation Redwings eventually became a campaign for the destruction of the local militia and Ahmad Shah, which eventually started operation whalers that forced Shah and his remaining fighters to leave the region and retreat to Pakistan. Delta fiver ( talk) (UTC) 08:16, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Definitely passes GNG, could pass WP:SOLDIER because of his role in Operation Red Wings. A quick newspapers.com search comes up with tons of stuff. There is an annual rodeo in his name, there is a statue, there is the movie role, there is a road named for him. This is definitely significant coverage, and there are literally hundreds of secondary, reliable sources that cover him. Jacona ( talk) 03:13, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 ( talk) 01:22, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 ( talk) 01:22, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Cabayi ( talk) 10:41, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Cabayi ( talk) 10:41, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep There's a highway named after him, a strong indication of notability, as generally only notable people get highways named after them. If someone sees the signs along the highway indicating the Petty Officer Danny Dietz Memorial Highway they may want to find out more about him, and the article fulfills this. Jeffrey Beall (talk) 15:45, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. He won the Navy's highest stand-alone medal, and has a highway named after him. Bearian ( talk) 17:52, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
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