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The result was Withdrawn Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 22:32, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders: Making the Team
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Questionable notability at best. The article is hideously laden with WP:FANCRUFT detailing every last moment of every last person to appear on the show. It's also got a heavy case of WP:REFBOMB:
- Rundown of the sources
1. TV Guide listing
2, 4, 75, 76, 86-88. CMT's website
3. Deadline.com, mentioning it tangentially in a press release that also name-drops several other shows
5. "Renew Cancel TV", a blog with no evidence of editorial oversight
6, 7. Press release reprinted in Futon Critic
8-17, 19-23, 25, 26. 28-31, 33, 34, 57, 58. Instagram profiles
18. An upload of the show
24. Article about the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders that only mentions the show at the very end
27, 66, 67, 73 77-83. Dallas Cowboys' and/or Cheerleaders' official website
32, 35-37, 39, 41, 42. YouTube videos from the Dallas Cowboys
38. A podcast
40, 45-52, 74. Facebook
43, 63. A sketchy looking cheerleader news site with no evidence of editorial oversight
44, 89. Dead link
53, 68. Twitter
54, 55. News articles about a cheerleader on the show being involved in a lawsuit. These do not mention the show at all.
56. Dead link to a personal blog
59. NFL official website
60, 62, 64, 65. 71, 84, 90-93. News coverage on an individual, which does not mention the show at all
61. Dating profile (?!?)
69, 70, 85. Biographies on personal/business websites
72. Genealogy website
94. Broken link which seems to be an attempt to hotlink an image
A search for sources found a ton of social media profiles and YouTube videos pertaining to the show, but the closest thing I could find to a reliable source was this interview about the show coming back after COVID put it on hiatus.
The only sources on Google News that I could find were things like this or this. In otherwords, local newspapers writing human interest articles on local people getting their 15 minutes of fame on the show, which do not cover the show to any degree of substance. I was also on TV and had the local papers write about me; that does not make me notable. Other sources on Google News are just "how to watch this show online" or "best shows about X" listicles. I was unable to find anything more substantial.
If it turns out that there is sourcing that I've somehow missed in the paltry 63 hits I get for the title on Google, then clearly some WP:TNT is needed here. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 02:08, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep We're not deleting a seventeen-season reality series about one of the world's most prominent professional cheerleading squads. It does need a good cull of reality cruft for sure but... WP:SOFIXIT. Nate • ( chatter) 03:09, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep I have to agree with Nate above--Notability is not the issue here. Editing and content? Sure, needs tons of work. But a simple Google Search (and even a more restrictive Google News search) turns up a lot of details. There's no real reason to delete this article. There is every reason to clean it up.-- Paul McDonald ( talk) 14:31, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Why are you even having this discussion, OP? Your idea of "notability" is "If I've never heard about this, then it's not notable". That's not how notability works. At all. Thecleanerand ( talk) 16:27, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. A show continually airing on a national TV network since 2006 is undoubtedly notable per WP:NTVNATL. Definitely in need of cleanup, though. Etzedek24 ( I'll talk at ya) ( Check my track record) 17:08, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- @ Mrschimpf: @ Paulmcdonald: @ Etzdek24: have any of you found sources that I have not? Because I found literally zero. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 21:09, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- One, two, three. And, regardless, WP:NTVNATL suggests this is a notable topic. Etzedek24 ( I'll talk at ya) ( Check my track record) 22:23, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Withdrawn Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 22:32, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders: Making the Team
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- Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders: Making the Team ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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Questionable notability at best. The article is hideously laden with WP:FANCRUFT detailing every last moment of every last person to appear on the show. It's also got a heavy case of WP:REFBOMB:
- Rundown of the sources
1. TV Guide listing
2, 4, 75, 76, 86-88. CMT's website
3. Deadline.com, mentioning it tangentially in a press release that also name-drops several other shows
5. "Renew Cancel TV", a blog with no evidence of editorial oversight
6, 7. Press release reprinted in Futon Critic
8-17, 19-23, 25, 26. 28-31, 33, 34, 57, 58. Instagram profiles
18. An upload of the show
24. Article about the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders that only mentions the show at the very end
27, 66, 67, 73 77-83. Dallas Cowboys' and/or Cheerleaders' official website
32, 35-37, 39, 41, 42. YouTube videos from the Dallas Cowboys
38. A podcast
40, 45-52, 74. Facebook
43, 63. A sketchy looking cheerleader news site with no evidence of editorial oversight
44, 89. Dead link
53, 68. Twitter
54, 55. News articles about a cheerleader on the show being involved in a lawsuit. These do not mention the show at all.
56. Dead link to a personal blog
59. NFL official website
60, 62, 64, 65. 71, 84, 90-93. News coverage on an individual, which does not mention the show at all
61. Dating profile (?!?)
69, 70, 85. Biographies on personal/business websites
72. Genealogy website
94. Broken link which seems to be an attempt to hotlink an image
A search for sources found a ton of social media profiles and YouTube videos pertaining to the show, but the closest thing I could find to a reliable source was this interview about the show coming back after COVID put it on hiatus.
The only sources on Google News that I could find were things like this or this. In otherwords, local newspapers writing human interest articles on local people getting their 15 minutes of fame on the show, which do not cover the show to any degree of substance. I was also on TV and had the local papers write about me; that does not make me notable. Other sources on Google News are just "how to watch this show online" or "best shows about X" listicles. I was unable to find anything more substantial.
If it turns out that there is sourcing that I've somehow missed in the paltry 63 hits I get for the title on Google, then clearly some WP:TNT is needed here. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 02:08, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 02:08, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 02:08, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 02:08, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep We're not deleting a seventeen-season reality series about one of the world's most prominent professional cheerleading squads. It does need a good cull of reality cruft for sure but... WP:SOFIXIT. Nate • ( chatter) 03:09, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep I have to agree with Nate above--Notability is not the issue here. Editing and content? Sure, needs tons of work. But a simple Google Search (and even a more restrictive Google News search) turns up a lot of details. There's no real reason to delete this article. There is every reason to clean it up.-- Paul McDonald ( talk) 14:31, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Why are you even having this discussion, OP? Your idea of "notability" is "If I've never heard about this, then it's not notable". That's not how notability works. At all. Thecleanerand ( talk) 16:27, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. A show continually airing on a national TV network since 2006 is undoubtedly notable per WP:NTVNATL. Definitely in need of cleanup, though. Etzedek24 ( I'll talk at ya) ( Check my track record) 17:08, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- @ Mrschimpf: @ Paulmcdonald: @ Etzdek24: have any of you found sources that I have not? Because I found literally zero. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 21:09, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- One, two, three. And, regardless, WP:NTVNATL suggests this is a notable topic. Etzedek24 ( I'll talk at ya) ( Check my track record) 22:23, 28 March 2022 (UTC)