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The outcome was speedy keep under WP:SK ground 1: withdrawn by nominator, with no outstanding !votes to delete. Thanks to Yngvadottir for the WP:HEY.— S Marshall  T/ C 09:26, 6 September 2020 (UTC) reply

DAVA Foods

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About five years ago, someone translated the first two sentences of a Danish language article about this Danish company, and then abandoned it. Apparently, this corporation has just over three hundred employees and it sells eggs.
Well, I nominated it for A7 today, and the reviewing sysop decided to add one (1) reference and one (1) sentence about a historic salmonella scare, and then directed me to AfD.
The Danish language version of this article may be acceptable and could be translated, but nobody has done that and Wikipedia:Pages needing translation is so catastrophically backlogged with far more important work that I think there's little real prospect of anyone doing so for quite a few years. Until that happens, please will the community authorise its deletion. — S Marshall  T/ C 19:29, 4 September 2020 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 19:33, 4 September 2020 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Denmark-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 19:33, 4 September 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep The article is not listed on Wikipedia:Pages needing translation, so I don't see the problem. That list appears to be for bad translations, not articles with potential for expansion via translation. The current stub is useful; a deleted article is not. ― Hebsen ( talk) 02:08, 5 September 2020 (UTC) reply
    • Useful to whom, and in what circumstances?— S Marshall  T/ C 09:03, 5 September 2020 (UTC) reply
      • If one reads an article that mentions "DAVA Foods" og "Hedegaard Foods", but does not explain what the firm do, they can look it op here and see that they are Danish and produce eggs. Granted, that is not much, but it is the most important information there is to say. You have not questioned the notability of the subject. ― Hebsen ( talk) 09:41, 5 September 2020 (UTC) reply
        • On the other hand, if we deleted it here, then instead of finding this microstub, they'd find the very comprehensive Danish Wikipedia article, although they might need to use google translate to read it. You're right to say that this isn't about notability; it's about a two-sentence microstub that someone generated with twenty seconds' work, five years ago, and then abandoned. I think it's an utterly disproportionate amount of effort to fix it and much simpler to delete, but if you'd rather fix it, feel free.— S Marshall  T/ C 10:22, 5 September 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. I used the Danish Wikipedia article to expand it, adding a couple of references I found myself for things where their reference was irretrievable or where they didn't have one. The company does dominate the Nordic egg market (I am out of time but need to hunt down more on its size and its market share in, for example, the Faroes), and has attracted press coverage that is not all regurgitated press releases and is not all about the salmonella outbreak (I kept the one ref we had on that but didn't have time to add any of the others da.wikipedia has). I believe notability is now established. Yngvadottir ( talk) 02:10, 6 September 2020 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 03:19, 6 September 2020 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The outcome was speedy keep under WP:SK ground 1: withdrawn by nominator, with no outstanding !votes to delete. Thanks to Yngvadottir for the WP:HEY.— S Marshall  T/ C 09:26, 6 September 2020 (UTC) reply

DAVA Foods

DAVA Foods (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
(Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
About five years ago, someone translated the first two sentences of a Danish language article about this Danish company, and then abandoned it. Apparently, this corporation has just over three hundred employees and it sells eggs.
Well, I nominated it for A7 today, and the reviewing sysop decided to add one (1) reference and one (1) sentence about a historic salmonella scare, and then directed me to AfD.
The Danish language version of this article may be acceptable and could be translated, but nobody has done that and Wikipedia:Pages needing translation is so catastrophically backlogged with far more important work that I think there's little real prospect of anyone doing so for quite a few years. Until that happens, please will the community authorise its deletion. — S Marshall  T/ C 19:29, 4 September 2020 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 19:33, 4 September 2020 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Denmark-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 19:33, 4 September 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep The article is not listed on Wikipedia:Pages needing translation, so I don't see the problem. That list appears to be for bad translations, not articles with potential for expansion via translation. The current stub is useful; a deleted article is not. ― Hebsen ( talk) 02:08, 5 September 2020 (UTC) reply
    • Useful to whom, and in what circumstances?— S Marshall  T/ C 09:03, 5 September 2020 (UTC) reply
      • If one reads an article that mentions "DAVA Foods" og "Hedegaard Foods", but does not explain what the firm do, they can look it op here and see that they are Danish and produce eggs. Granted, that is not much, but it is the most important information there is to say. You have not questioned the notability of the subject. ― Hebsen ( talk) 09:41, 5 September 2020 (UTC) reply
        • On the other hand, if we deleted it here, then instead of finding this microstub, they'd find the very comprehensive Danish Wikipedia article, although they might need to use google translate to read it. You're right to say that this isn't about notability; it's about a two-sentence microstub that someone generated with twenty seconds' work, five years ago, and then abandoned. I think it's an utterly disproportionate amount of effort to fix it and much simpler to delete, but if you'd rather fix it, feel free.— S Marshall  T/ C 10:22, 5 September 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. I used the Danish Wikipedia article to expand it, adding a couple of references I found myself for things where their reference was irretrievable or where they didn't have one. The company does dominate the Nordic egg market (I am out of time but need to hunt down more on its size and its market share in, for example, the Faroes), and has attracted press coverage that is not all regurgitated press releases and is not all about the salmonella outbreak (I kept the one ref we had on that but didn't have time to add any of the others da.wikipedia has). I believe notability is now established. Yngvadottir ( talk) 02:10, 6 September 2020 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 03:19, 6 September 2020 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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