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The result was keep. Geschichte ( talk) 15:45, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Cuttings Wharf, California
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It was literally a wharf, which the county took over back in the 1920s and gradually turned into the marina it is today. Doesn't seem to be notable, and certainly isn't an never was a settlement. Mangoe ( talk) 21:45, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
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- Weak Keep. No post office. GBooks had a few hits, but all fairly trivial. newspapers.com found a number of hits including an article about the history of Cuttings Wharf and about the low quality housing. The Napa Valley Register has coverage from around 2011 about the housing and its eventual demolition. The state of California recognizes a boat launch at this location, but I don't feel that necessarily meets legal recognition of a community, so #1 of WP:GEOLAND is not met. However, there seems to be non-trivial coverage of the location from multiple sources, so on that basis #2 of WP:GEOLAND is met. In particular, that there is an article about Cuttings Wharf meets my needs, and there are other articles such as [1] over the years. It is of interest and possibly notable how this location at one time provided low income housing in a county known for its affluence. I don't have strong feelings about keeping this article, though I did just now spend some time adding references and I feel like it meets a basic standard of notability. Cxbrx ( talk) 00:55, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
- OK, that explains a peculiar detail in some of the aerials, which show a dense cluster of "buildings" which, from these articles, were actually war surplus army tents. I'll have to look into this a bit further; I'm not quite clear on the notability.
Mangoe (
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23:45, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
- My reading of various sources [2] indicate that actual buildings were moved, not surplus army tents. That being written, I'm fine with this article being deleted if it is too WP:MILL. It seems like a typical very small community with substandard housing that results in evictions. FWIW - there are signs on CA-12 for this locale and "Napa Valley Resorts". This does not make the locale notable, but I was always curious as to what exactly was down those roads. Cxbrx ( talk) 21:00, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
- OK, that explains a peculiar detail in some of the aerials, which show a dense cluster of "buildings" which, from these articles, were actually war surplus army tents. I'll have to look into this a bit further; I'm not quite clear on the notability.
Mangoe (
talk)
23:45, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting.. I live about 5 miles from here.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain ( talk) 00:25, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Relisting.. I live about 5 miles from here.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain ( talk) 00:25, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - thanks to Cxbrx, this article has passed the Heymann Standard and has proven notability, because it now has more verified historical content which proves the notability. Koridas 📣 21:21, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 22:11, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 22:11, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
- Keep While this is another one of these articles about non settlements that were mass created by Carlossuarez46. However, Cxbrx has done a fine job of improving the article with references.___ Kieran207 talk 22:19, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Geschichte ( talk) 15:45, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Cuttings Wharf, California
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It was literally a wharf, which the county took over back in the 1920s and gradually turned into the marina it is today. Doesn't seem to be notable, and certainly isn't an never was a settlement. Mangoe ( talk) 21:45, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 21:48, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 21:48, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- Weak Keep. No post office. GBooks had a few hits, but all fairly trivial. newspapers.com found a number of hits including an article about the history of Cuttings Wharf and about the low quality housing. The Napa Valley Register has coverage from around 2011 about the housing and its eventual demolition. The state of California recognizes a boat launch at this location, but I don't feel that necessarily meets legal recognition of a community, so #1 of WP:GEOLAND is not met. However, there seems to be non-trivial coverage of the location from multiple sources, so on that basis #2 of WP:GEOLAND is met. In particular, that there is an article about Cuttings Wharf meets my needs, and there are other articles such as [1] over the years. It is of interest and possibly notable how this location at one time provided low income housing in a county known for its affluence. I don't have strong feelings about keeping this article, though I did just now spend some time adding references and I feel like it meets a basic standard of notability. Cxbrx ( talk) 00:55, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
- OK, that explains a peculiar detail in some of the aerials, which show a dense cluster of "buildings" which, from these articles, were actually war surplus army tents. I'll have to look into this a bit further; I'm not quite clear on the notability.
Mangoe (
talk)
23:45, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
- My reading of various sources [2] indicate that actual buildings were moved, not surplus army tents. That being written, I'm fine with this article being deleted if it is too WP:MILL. It seems like a typical very small community with substandard housing that results in evictions. FWIW - there are signs on CA-12 for this locale and "Napa Valley Resorts". This does not make the locale notable, but I was always curious as to what exactly was down those roads. Cxbrx ( talk) 21:00, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
- OK, that explains a peculiar detail in some of the aerials, which show a dense cluster of "buildings" which, from these articles, were actually war surplus army tents. I'll have to look into this a bit further; I'm not quite clear on the notability.
Mangoe (
talk)
23:45, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting.. I live about 5 miles from here.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain ( talk) 00:25, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Relisting.. I live about 5 miles from here.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain ( talk) 00:25, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - thanks to Cxbrx, this article has passed the Heymann Standard and has proven notability, because it now has more verified historical content which proves the notability. Koridas 📣 21:21, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 22:11, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 22:11, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
- Keep While this is another one of these articles about non settlements that were mass created by Carlossuarez46. However, Cxbrx has done a fine job of improving the article with references.___ Kieran207 talk 22:19, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
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