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The result was keep. Consensus is that this is a notable subject and any POV issues can be addressed without deletion. RL0919 ( talk) 19:29, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
Cultural_mandate
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Lacks NPOV, lacks notability LordDimwit ( talk) 18:26, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
Genesis 1:28 is the commonly-known "Be fruitful and multiply..." verse. However, this page, which is what Wikipedia sends you to if you look up "be fruitful and multiply" and is the first Google result from Wikipedia, is concerned primarily with the Reformed Tradition notion of the "cultural mandate".
While the concept of the "cultural mandate" exists within certain strains of Christianity, it is not synonymous with "Be fruitful and multiply..." and therefore the title of the page itself is inaccurate and in violation of NPOV. I would argue that the concept of "cultural mandate" is not worth an article on its own; it can be folded into Dominion theology.
As for the verse in Genesis itself, I think its sufficiently discussed in the article on the Genesis creation narrative. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LordDimwit ( talk • contribs) 20:42, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log ( step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2019 December 13. — cyberbot I Talk to my owner:Online 18:38, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 18:39, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- Speedy keep Lacking NPOV isn't a valid reason for implemneting an AfD. See WP:AFDISNOTCLEANUP. – The Grid ( talk) 20:30, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- It's not just that the article lacks NPOV: it's also not worthy of its own page (sorry, I don't know what the term is for that..."lacks notability"?). See my reasoning above: the topics covered by the page are better covered by the existing articles on Dominion theology and Genesis creation narrative.
- And additionally, the only way to fix the lack of NPOV on the page is to delete it and/or make it such that the link for "Be fruitful and multiply" doesn't point to it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LordDimwit ( talk • contribs) 20:42, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. I must apologise: this article has been on my to-do list for years, and I've never got around to expanding it. It's certainly a notable concept (though within the Reformed tradition) and much bigger than dominion theology. Of course, " Be fruitful and multiply" could still be an article by itself, and could also discuss the Quiverfull movement. St Anselm ( talk) 22:38, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- Keep: Meets WP:GNG, and it's a relevant and notable topic in Christian theology. -- 1990'sguy ( talk) 23:56, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- Keep as it is a notable concept but perhaps the title could be changed, imv Atlantic306 ( talk) 00:41, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
- Keep -- The article is essentially a commentary on one verse of the Bible. " Be fruitful and multiply" would be a better title. There is probably a lot of scope for giving the views of other Christian (and Jewish) commentators on it, but this is not an article pushing one POV in a way that cannot be remedied. Peterkingiron ( talk) 14:39, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Consensus is that this is a notable subject and any POV issues can be addressed without deletion. RL0919 ( talk) 19:29, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
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Lacks NPOV, lacks notability LordDimwit ( talk) 18:26, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
Genesis 1:28 is the commonly-known "Be fruitful and multiply..." verse. However, this page, which is what Wikipedia sends you to if you look up "be fruitful and multiply" and is the first Google result from Wikipedia, is concerned primarily with the Reformed Tradition notion of the "cultural mandate".
While the concept of the "cultural mandate" exists within certain strains of Christianity, it is not synonymous with "Be fruitful and multiply..." and therefore the title of the page itself is inaccurate and in violation of NPOV. I would argue that the concept of "cultural mandate" is not worth an article on its own; it can be folded into Dominion theology.
As for the verse in Genesis itself, I think its sufficiently discussed in the article on the Genesis creation narrative. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LordDimwit ( talk • contribs) 20:42, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log ( step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2019 December 13. — cyberbot I Talk to my owner:Online 18:38, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 18:39, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- Speedy keep Lacking NPOV isn't a valid reason for implemneting an AfD. See WP:AFDISNOTCLEANUP. – The Grid ( talk) 20:30, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- It's not just that the article lacks NPOV: it's also not worthy of its own page (sorry, I don't know what the term is for that..."lacks notability"?). See my reasoning above: the topics covered by the page are better covered by the existing articles on Dominion theology and Genesis creation narrative.
- And additionally, the only way to fix the lack of NPOV on the page is to delete it and/or make it such that the link for "Be fruitful and multiply" doesn't point to it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LordDimwit ( talk • contribs) 20:42, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. I must apologise: this article has been on my to-do list for years, and I've never got around to expanding it. It's certainly a notable concept (though within the Reformed tradition) and much bigger than dominion theology. Of course, " Be fruitful and multiply" could still be an article by itself, and could also discuss the Quiverfull movement. St Anselm ( talk) 22:38, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- Keep: Meets WP:GNG, and it's a relevant and notable topic in Christian theology. -- 1990'sguy ( talk) 23:56, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- Keep as it is a notable concept but perhaps the title could be changed, imv Atlantic306 ( talk) 00:41, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
- Keep -- The article is essentially a commentary on one verse of the Bible. " Be fruitful and multiply" would be a better title. There is probably a lot of scope for giving the views of other Christian (and Jewish) commentators on it, but this is not an article pushing one POV in a way that cannot be remedied. Peterkingiron ( talk) 14:39, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
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