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The result was keep. Has been withdrawn by nominator. Galobtter ( pingó mió) 14:39, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
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Does not meet WP:N in its own right per WP:UKPLACES. Not even mentioned in expansive recent works such as the London Plan which names some very borderline areas such as Nags Head in the heart of fairly tiny Holloway as London places but which have a market or something more notable. Not all sub-neighbourhoods and subsets of streets meet WP:N... - Adam37 Talk 19:47, 30 December 2018 (UTC) Withdrawn by nominator see details below.
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- Comment If this isn't kept or merged/redirected then it should be restored as a redirect to Battle of Crooked Billet. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 11:45, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- I think you misapprehend the relationship of this article, which is on the outskirts of London, England, and the
Battle of Crooked Billet, which took place in Pennsylvania, U.S. Or maybe I've misunderstood your intent? Cheers.
7&6=thirteen (
☎)
02:23, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- I was saying that if we don't keep the place in London or redirect it to a parent article, then the redirect should be restored to the US battle. However its looking like a keep anyway. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 19:15, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
- I think you misapprehend the relationship of this article, which is on the outskirts of London, England, and the
Battle of Crooked Billet, which took place in Pennsylvania, U.S. Or maybe I've misunderstood your intent? Cheers.
7&6=thirteen (
☎)
02:23, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep The current content is reasonable because this does have some currency as a district of London, e.g. May's paternal grandfather, Tom, and his five siblings were all born in the Crooked Billet area of Wimbledon. The title is a common name for a pub and there are plenty more besides the one in Wimbledon. The page and title therefore have some potential utility for disambiguation and we should retain the full edit history to record aspects such as the previous redirect to the battle. Andrew D. ( talk) 13:21, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
KeepNo compliance with WP:Before. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 19:09, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Scott ( talk) 20:53, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Scott ( talk) 20:53, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep: WP:UKPLACES, cited by the nominator, is a guideline on naming conventions for places in the UK. It has nothing to do with assessing their notability. The applicable guideline here is WP:GEOLAND, which the article clearly passes. SITH (talk) 21:03, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep definitely satisfies WP:GNG, WP:GEOLAND as a geographical place.-- PATH SLOPU ( Talk) 02:09, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- Comment I've added lots of content and sources. As I said, WP:Before clearly violated. Matthews, Tony (2009). "Crooked Billet". London Gardens On Line. London Parks and Gardens Trust. Retrieved 7 January 2019. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 13:10, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- Snow keep 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 18:02, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. The article now includes two independent WP:RS citations specifically about the place: titles, "Crooked Billet" and "Crooked Billet, Merton". That alone is enough to satisfy WP:GNG. Narky Blert ( talk) 10:40, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep Google news search shows great reviews of it at The Resident [1] and Vogue magazine [2], as well as two recommendations in Evening Standard [3] [4] among other mentions in publications. Dream Focus 16:00, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep but keep UK cities/towns policy under review; for areas with fewer than 200 self-identifying residents one has to maintain a sense of an article Section (sometimes) of the usually given parent place as being perfectly suitable.- Adam37 Talk 14:22, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Has been withdrawn by nominator. Galobtter ( pingó mió) 14:39, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
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Does not meet WP:N in its own right per WP:UKPLACES. Not even mentioned in expansive recent works such as the London Plan which names some very borderline areas such as Nags Head in the heart of fairly tiny Holloway as London places but which have a market or something more notable. Not all sub-neighbourhoods and subsets of streets meet WP:N... - Adam37 Talk 19:47, 30 December 2018 (UTC) Withdrawn by nominator see details below.
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka ( talk) 21:21, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka ( talk) 21:21, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. North America 1000 08:49, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Comment If this isn't kept or merged/redirected then it should be restored as a redirect to Battle of Crooked Billet. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 11:45, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- I think you misapprehend the relationship of this article, which is on the outskirts of London, England, and the
Battle of Crooked Billet, which took place in Pennsylvania, U.S. Or maybe I've misunderstood your intent? Cheers.
7&6=thirteen (
☎)
02:23, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- I was saying that if we don't keep the place in London or redirect it to a parent article, then the redirect should be restored to the US battle. However its looking like a keep anyway. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 19:15, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
- I think you misapprehend the relationship of this article, which is on the outskirts of London, England, and the
Battle of Crooked Billet, which took place in Pennsylvania, U.S. Or maybe I've misunderstood your intent? Cheers.
7&6=thirteen (
☎)
02:23, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep The current content is reasonable because this does have some currency as a district of London, e.g. May's paternal grandfather, Tom, and his five siblings were all born in the Crooked Billet area of Wimbledon. The title is a common name for a pub and there are plenty more besides the one in Wimbledon. The page and title therefore have some potential utility for disambiguation and we should retain the full edit history to record aspects such as the previous redirect to the battle. Andrew D. ( talk) 13:21, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
KeepNo compliance with WP:Before. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 19:09, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Scott ( talk) 20:53, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Scott ( talk) 20:53, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep: WP:UKPLACES, cited by the nominator, is a guideline on naming conventions for places in the UK. It has nothing to do with assessing their notability. The applicable guideline here is WP:GEOLAND, which the article clearly passes. SITH (talk) 21:03, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep definitely satisfies WP:GNG, WP:GEOLAND as a geographical place.-- PATH SLOPU ( Talk) 02:09, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- Comment I've added lots of content and sources. As I said, WP:Before clearly violated. Matthews, Tony (2009). "Crooked Billet". London Gardens On Line. London Parks and Gardens Trust. Retrieved 7 January 2019. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 13:10, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- Snow keep 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 18:02, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. The article now includes two independent WP:RS citations specifically about the place: titles, "Crooked Billet" and "Crooked Billet, Merton". That alone is enough to satisfy WP:GNG. Narky Blert ( talk) 10:40, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep Google news search shows great reviews of it at The Resident [1] and Vogue magazine [2], as well as two recommendations in Evening Standard [3] [4] among other mentions in publications. Dream Focus 16:00, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep but keep UK cities/towns policy under review; for areas with fewer than 200 self-identifying residents one has to maintain a sense of an article Section (sometimes) of the usually given parent place as being perfectly suitable.- Adam37 Talk 14:22, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
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