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The result was speedy keep. Keep per nominator's withdrawal and WP:SKCRIT. There seem to be no objections and any renaming can be done via normal editing. (non-admin closure) Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 18:52, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
Continuum expression of the first law of thermodynamics
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There is no indication that the continuum form of the first law of thermodynamics is notable in the sense of warranting a stand-alone article. All of the forms of the first law of thermodynamics can be included, with appropriate references, in the main article. Robert McClenon ( talk) 00:55, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
- Comment. That's not a matter for AfD. You can merge the disputed article into the main article with no special process, and see if anyone opposes it, or more cautiously you can open a merge discussion at the articles in question. -- Trovatore ( talk) 01:04, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
- Keep. I think this AfD is very premature. If it is to be merged anywhere, content involving the continuum form of the first law probably belongs in the article Navier-Stokes equation rather than first law of thermodynamics. I don't really think it belongs in the latter article at all, simply because the second article is just the wrong audience for continuum mechanics. But in any case, currently neither article discusses this equation (at least in connection with the first law, Navier-Stokes equation is a bit of a mess, so it's hard to tease out exactly what is going on there). I don't see any harm in having a separate stub where this content can be improved upon. Furthermore, notability is clearly established by sources like the two standard textbooks on fluid mechanics that are now cited in the article. Sławomir Biały ( talk) 01:06, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 02:07, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
- Keep. I agree with Sławomir Biały and Trovatore comments. However, the title is misleading, and there is no hope that a reader who searches for it would find it easily. It should be renamed First law of thermodynamics (continuum mechanics) or First law of thermodynamics (fluid mechanics). D.Lazard ( talk) 09:53, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
- Comment - As nominator, I am willing to change my !vote to Keep and rename based on the opinions that the stub is useful. I will comment that the author of this article thought that it was necessary because there is a Continuum expression of the second law of thermodynamics, but that it is actually itself a redirect. I am assuming that the current title, which is meaningful only to one editor, can nonetheless be kept as a redirect because redirects are cheap. Robert McClenon ( talk) 17:31, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
- Keep: there is still plenty that can be added to this article, such as a derivation, or expanding its relationship to the Navier-Stokes equations. I'll also note that the article with its current name is easy to find via google even if it is difficult to find using the Wikipedia search bar. M. A. Bruhn ( talk) 17:47, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
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The result was speedy keep. Keep per nominator's withdrawal and WP:SKCRIT. There seem to be no objections and any renaming can be done via normal editing. (non-admin closure) Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 18:52, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
Continuum expression of the first law of thermodynamics
- Continuum expression of the first law of thermodynamics ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
There is no indication that the continuum form of the first law of thermodynamics is notable in the sense of warranting a stand-alone article. All of the forms of the first law of thermodynamics can be included, with appropriate references, in the main article. Robert McClenon ( talk) 00:55, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
- Comment. That's not a matter for AfD. You can merge the disputed article into the main article with no special process, and see if anyone opposes it, or more cautiously you can open a merge discussion at the articles in question. -- Trovatore ( talk) 01:04, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
- Keep. I think this AfD is very premature. If it is to be merged anywhere, content involving the continuum form of the first law probably belongs in the article Navier-Stokes equation rather than first law of thermodynamics. I don't really think it belongs in the latter article at all, simply because the second article is just the wrong audience for continuum mechanics. But in any case, currently neither article discusses this equation (at least in connection with the first law, Navier-Stokes equation is a bit of a mess, so it's hard to tease out exactly what is going on there). I don't see any harm in having a separate stub where this content can be improved upon. Furthermore, notability is clearly established by sources like the two standard textbooks on fluid mechanics that are now cited in the article. Sławomir Biały ( talk) 01:06, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 02:07, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
- Keep. I agree with Sławomir Biały and Trovatore comments. However, the title is misleading, and there is no hope that a reader who searches for it would find it easily. It should be renamed First law of thermodynamics (continuum mechanics) or First law of thermodynamics (fluid mechanics). D.Lazard ( talk) 09:53, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
- Comment - As nominator, I am willing to change my !vote to Keep and rename based on the opinions that the stub is useful. I will comment that the author of this article thought that it was necessary because there is a Continuum expression of the second law of thermodynamics, but that it is actually itself a redirect. I am assuming that the current title, which is meaningful only to one editor, can nonetheless be kept as a redirect because redirects are cheap. Robert McClenon ( talk) 17:31, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
- Keep: there is still plenty that can be added to this article, such as a derivation, or expanding its relationship to the Navier-Stokes equations. I'll also note that the article with its current name is easy to find via google even if it is difficult to find using the Wikipedia search bar. M. A. Bruhn ( talk) 17:47, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
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