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The result was keep. I'm going ahead and closing this early based on the
snowball clause. Leaving aside the arguments already made, there's the fact that Division I ice hockey facilities are all but univerally covered by articles. Whether or not this should be so across the board may or may not be something that should be discussed, but AfD is not the place for that 'umbrella' discussion, and shooting individual articles out from under that umbrella, one way or another, is something that shouldn't be taking place.
The BushrangerOne ping only 22:02, 2 November 2017 (UTC)reply
Refs consist of dead links, press releases, and internal publications that lack independence. No meaningful coverage in independent reliable verifiable published sources, no evidence of notability.
KDS4444(
talk) 01:23, 31 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep, tentatively (may change to merge/redirect depending upon further discussion). There was a
recent AFD about a list of Notre Dame residence halls which ended in "Keep" decision. Is this a continuation of that quest? (Maybe not, this is not the same deletion nominator.) There have been many AFDs about individual buildings on university campuses which either end "Keep" or "Merge" or "Redirect" to a list of university buildings. To the nominator, could you please address what are the list-articles about Notre Dame buildings and whether this is covered, or could be covered in one of them?
Also, a 5,000 seat stadium is usually significant as a sports venue, especially one partly serving a university as well as larger community.
I am not judging yet on whether this topic is individually notable yet (it depends on sources) but I am sure that a better alternative to deletion is available. --
doncram 04:16, 31 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep It's the home of the
Notre Dame Fighting Irish men's ice hockey team. They're a Division I powerhouse. Unless it's some literal 'metal building with a rink', we generally don't delete the articles involving NCAA arenas, especially Division I teams. Nate•(
chatter) 04:36, 31 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep It is a major area that is home to a power house university hockey team. As Mrschimpf said, NCAA arenas are generally always notable, especially D1. -
DJSasso (
talk) 11:05, 31 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep Division I arenas are notable, especially a powerhouse like Notre Dame.
Smartyllama (
talk) 17:11, 2 November 2017 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. I'm going ahead and closing this early based on the
snowball clause. Leaving aside the arguments already made, there's the fact that Division I ice hockey facilities are all but univerally covered by articles. Whether or not this should be so across the board may or may not be something that should be discussed, but AfD is not the place for that 'umbrella' discussion, and shooting individual articles out from under that umbrella, one way or another, is something that shouldn't be taking place.
The BushrangerOne ping only 22:02, 2 November 2017 (UTC)reply
Refs consist of dead links, press releases, and internal publications that lack independence. No meaningful coverage in independent reliable verifiable published sources, no evidence of notability.
KDS4444(
talk) 01:23, 31 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep, tentatively (may change to merge/redirect depending upon further discussion). There was a
recent AFD about a list of Notre Dame residence halls which ended in "Keep" decision. Is this a continuation of that quest? (Maybe not, this is not the same deletion nominator.) There have been many AFDs about individual buildings on university campuses which either end "Keep" or "Merge" or "Redirect" to a list of university buildings. To the nominator, could you please address what are the list-articles about Notre Dame buildings and whether this is covered, or could be covered in one of them?
Also, a 5,000 seat stadium is usually significant as a sports venue, especially one partly serving a university as well as larger community.
I am not judging yet on whether this topic is individually notable yet (it depends on sources) but I am sure that a better alternative to deletion is available. --
doncram 04:16, 31 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep It's the home of the
Notre Dame Fighting Irish men's ice hockey team. They're a Division I powerhouse. Unless it's some literal 'metal building with a rink', we generally don't delete the articles involving NCAA arenas, especially Division I teams. Nate•(
chatter) 04:36, 31 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep It is a major area that is home to a power house university hockey team. As Mrschimpf said, NCAA arenas are generally always notable, especially D1. -
DJSasso (
talk) 11:05, 31 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep Division I arenas are notable, especially a powerhouse like Notre Dame.
Smartyllama (
talk) 17:11, 2 November 2017 (UTC)reply
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