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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) Alpha Quadrant talk 22:18, 24 May 2011 (UTC) reply
College Premier Division
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Non-Notable collegiate rugby competition, no coverage outside competing schools. WP is not a sports results website. Mtking ( talk) 23:27, 7 May 2011 (UTC) reply
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Keep - College Premier Division is the Top-Tier of Collegiate Rugby in the USA. According to the Notability (Sports) page, "A national championship season at the top collegiate level is generally notable." [1] By that definition, it would make sense that an article describing the details, history & make-up of the top collegiate level of a sport would also be notable. I.E. If UC-Berkley wins the CPD, then that season would generally be notable. By the same logic, the league that they played in to win that title would also have to be notable.
As to the "no coverage outside competing schools", there are several rugby websites, etc. that cover the sport. Additionally, ESPNU/ESPN3 will be providing live coverage of the semi-finals & finals of the competition. Matthew MattSalt77 —Preceding undated comment added 03:51, 9 May 2011 (UTC). reply
Keep - Rugby may not be officially supported in the majority of American universities (the notable exception being Cal though there are others also [2]) but that does not diminish its importance both historically and as a bon-fide sporting competition. Collegiate rugby is at the foundation of the Ivy League, all College football and the NCAA. Even in the US there is a semi-professional league that has been running for 14 years but world-wide rugby is a major professional sport with a World Cup that is the fourth largest sporting event globaly (after the soccer World Cup, the Summer Olympics and the Tour de France) and it is set to become an Olympic sport in Rio 2016. The American team for this event (and future World Cups) will undoubtedly be replete with athletes that have developed and honed their skills in the College Premier Division, this competition is where US rugby will develop and nurture their future national representative talent. In twenty years time we will be glad that a record of the early years of this competition was kept so expeditiously! Mbwa mwitu ( talk) 07:39, 9 May 2011 (UTC) reply
- and how exactly does that demonstrate that the article meets
WP:GNG ?
Mtking (
talk) 08:05, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
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- and how does it not meet the criteria? As discussed above, it meets the criteria for a notable collegiate (top-tier) league in the US. Please provide evidence that it doesn't to further the discussion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattsalt77 ( talk • contribs) 03:43, 12 May 2011 (UTC) reply
- and how exactly does that demonstrate that the article meets
WP:GNG ?
Mtking (
talk) 08:05, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
reply
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Firsfron of Ronchester 13:44, 17 May 2011 (UTC) reply
- Keep per MattSalt77 basically. This is the top collegiate level of Rugby and therefore notable. It seems to receive a decent amount of coverage on Google News. Qrsdogg ( talk) 21:13, 24 May 2011 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) Alpha Quadrant talk 22:18, 24 May 2011 (UTC) reply
College Premier Division
- College Premier Division ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log)
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Non-Notable collegiate rugby competition, no coverage outside competing schools. WP is not a sports results website. Mtking ( talk) 23:27, 7 May 2011 (UTC) reply
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k ( talk) 01:03, 9 May 2011 (UTC) reply
Keep - College Premier Division is the Top-Tier of Collegiate Rugby in the USA. According to the Notability (Sports) page, "A national championship season at the top collegiate level is generally notable." [1] By that definition, it would make sense that an article describing the details, history & make-up of the top collegiate level of a sport would also be notable. I.E. If UC-Berkley wins the CPD, then that season would generally be notable. By the same logic, the league that they played in to win that title would also have to be notable.
As to the "no coverage outside competing schools", there are several rugby websites, etc. that cover the sport. Additionally, ESPNU/ESPN3 will be providing live coverage of the semi-finals & finals of the competition. Matthew MattSalt77 —Preceding undated comment added 03:51, 9 May 2011 (UTC). reply
Keep - Rugby may not be officially supported in the majority of American universities (the notable exception being Cal though there are others also [2]) but that does not diminish its importance both historically and as a bon-fide sporting competition. Collegiate rugby is at the foundation of the Ivy League, all College football and the NCAA. Even in the US there is a semi-professional league that has been running for 14 years but world-wide rugby is a major professional sport with a World Cup that is the fourth largest sporting event globaly (after the soccer World Cup, the Summer Olympics and the Tour de France) and it is set to become an Olympic sport in Rio 2016. The American team for this event (and future World Cups) will undoubtedly be replete with athletes that have developed and honed their skills in the College Premier Division, this competition is where US rugby will develop and nurture their future national representative talent. In twenty years time we will be glad that a record of the early years of this competition was kept so expeditiously! Mbwa mwitu ( talk) 07:39, 9 May 2011 (UTC) reply
- and how exactly does that demonstrate that the article meets
WP:GNG ?
Mtking (
talk) 08:05, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
reply
- and how does it not meet the criteria? As discussed above, it meets the criteria for a notable collegiate (top-tier) league in the US. Please provide evidence that it doesn't to further the discussion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattsalt77 ( talk • contribs) 03:43, 12 May 2011 (UTC) reply
- and how exactly does that demonstrate that the article meets
WP:GNG ?
Mtking (
talk) 08:05, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
reply
-
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Firsfron of Ronchester 13:44, 17 May 2011 (UTC) reply
- Keep per MattSalt77 basically. This is the top collegiate level of Rugby and therefore notable. It seems to receive a decent amount of coverage on Google News. Qrsdogg ( talk) 21:13, 24 May 2011 (UTC) reply
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- ^ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_%28sports%29#Individual_seasons
- ^ http://www.usarugby.org/goto/Collegiate_Clubs#cc%3D[Application]\\Structure\\Content\\Brand%20Resource%20Center\\Content\\Home\\21D9415F-129C-3D1E-45B7-71078B463B81\\23181D59-12E3-9D39-067D-2EDE62A20634{{Tab%3AView}}