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The result was Delete. There is no substantial coverage in reliable sources establishing notability. Cúchullain t/ c 14:48, 3 March 2011 (UTC) reply
College Girls (Are Easy)
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Despite claims of popularity, I get few ghits except for lyrics sites about the Beastie Boys song. No sources here regarding a mistaken authorship. Article fails to establish notability, and the requirements per WP:NSONGS are not met. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars ( talk) 18:14, 16 February 2011 (UTC) reply
- Keep - It is important to note that
a: 'college girls are easy' returns 9.6 million hits - not just a few
b: 'college girls song' returns over 6 million hits
c: there are lyric sites, but also to videos and a number of sites asking who actually wrote the song
d: the beastie boys, nwa, and easy-e versions of the songs videos and lyrics are all links to sites that are actually referencing Jesse Jaymes' but are mislableled as the beastie boys, nwa and easy-e
e: the confusion mentioned above was the primary reason for authoring this article.
f: the search results indicate a genuine interest in the authenticity of the song's true authorship.
g: juno and stifle are siting opinion and not fact as per wikipedia song.
h: this song is certainly as notable as many of the eventually forgettable internet memes that have embrazened the web. it may not be a good song, or a song of preference, but it is a song that has been circulating for over 20 years that many people have heard and only a handful have been able to properly identify.
Google search results have already begun to improve with the inception of this article on wikipedia. Jesse Jaymes video even shows up as a suggested search result (along side with suggestions to easy-e and beastie boys unfortunately), where it hadn't returned any proper results in the past (at least not on the first page or 2). As far as notability of other songs goes, "shake it" made the billboard top 100 and has also been featured in movie soundtracks — comment added by Nophonenophone ( talk • contribs) 00:49, 17 February 2011 (UTC) reply
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k ( talk) 16:07, 17 February 2011 (UTC) reply
- Keep - As a former club DJ from the days when this song was out - I can attest that the song was indeed recorded by Jesse Jaymes (aka Itzler), and not BB or any of the others, and that it was also quite popular back in the day. While it's popularity at the time was rather short-lived, it has appeared in more than a couple movies and tv shows since then - I will have to research further to fully ref them if necessary. In many dj/club circles this track has a bit of a cult following to this day, and is always a good throwback/nostalgia bit that tends to bring the house down. While some of this may be construed as opinion - it would indeed lend to the notability of the track. I urge reconsideration and further fact/ref checking prior to deletion of the article. Srobak ( talk) 07:33, 20 February 2011 (UTC) reply
- Delete None of the other songs on this CD were notable enough for pages, the CD was no notable enough for a page, I think this song falls in line. Juno ( talk) 20:49, 21 February 2011 (UTC) reply
- Delete Don't see how this meets WP:NSONGS. OhNoitsJamie Talk 14:27, 22 February 2011 (UTC) reply
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman ( talk) 01:43, 23 February 2011 (UTC) reply
- To you both - just because you do not know of the song (movie, band, car, city, country or even an established scientific method), does not mean that it is non-notable. If that were the criteria for article creation on WP, then it would be a very empty place. Non-fact based WP:OPINION needs to be kept at a minimum, while WP:NEUTRALITY needs to be kept at a maximum. Something to consider. Srobak ( talk) 12:25, 3 March 2011 (UTC) reply
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Why was the page deleated before any of the information could be consolidated on to the authors website? this was a huge mistake and some notice could have been given.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Delete. There is no substantial coverage in reliable sources establishing notability. Cúchullain t/ c 14:48, 3 March 2011 (UTC) reply
College Girls (Are Easy)
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Despite claims of popularity, I get few ghits except for lyrics sites about the Beastie Boys song. No sources here regarding a mistaken authorship. Article fails to establish notability, and the requirements per WP:NSONGS are not met. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars ( talk) 18:14, 16 February 2011 (UTC) reply
- Keep - It is important to note that
a: 'college girls are easy' returns 9.6 million hits - not just a few
b: 'college girls song' returns over 6 million hits
c: there are lyric sites, but also to videos and a number of sites asking who actually wrote the song
d: the beastie boys, nwa, and easy-e versions of the songs videos and lyrics are all links to sites that are actually referencing Jesse Jaymes' but are mislableled as the beastie boys, nwa and easy-e
e: the confusion mentioned above was the primary reason for authoring this article.
f: the search results indicate a genuine interest in the authenticity of the song's true authorship.
g: juno and stifle are siting opinion and not fact as per wikipedia song.
h: this song is certainly as notable as many of the eventually forgettable internet memes that have embrazened the web. it may not be a good song, or a song of preference, but it is a song that has been circulating for over 20 years that many people have heard and only a handful have been able to properly identify.
Google search results have already begun to improve with the inception of this article on wikipedia. Jesse Jaymes video even shows up as a suggested search result (along side with suggestions to easy-e and beastie boys unfortunately), where it hadn't returned any proper results in the past (at least not on the first page or 2). As far as notability of other songs goes, "shake it" made the billboard top 100 and has also been featured in movie soundtracks — comment added by Nophonenophone ( talk • contribs) 00:49, 17 February 2011 (UTC) reply
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k ( talk) 16:07, 17 February 2011 (UTC) reply
- Keep - As a former club DJ from the days when this song was out - I can attest that the song was indeed recorded by Jesse Jaymes (aka Itzler), and not BB or any of the others, and that it was also quite popular back in the day. While it's popularity at the time was rather short-lived, it has appeared in more than a couple movies and tv shows since then - I will have to research further to fully ref them if necessary. In many dj/club circles this track has a bit of a cult following to this day, and is always a good throwback/nostalgia bit that tends to bring the house down. While some of this may be construed as opinion - it would indeed lend to the notability of the track. I urge reconsideration and further fact/ref checking prior to deletion of the article. Srobak ( talk) 07:33, 20 February 2011 (UTC) reply
- Delete None of the other songs on this CD were notable enough for pages, the CD was no notable enough for a page, I think this song falls in line. Juno ( talk) 20:49, 21 February 2011 (UTC) reply
- Delete Don't see how this meets WP:NSONGS. OhNoitsJamie Talk 14:27, 22 February 2011 (UTC) reply
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman ( talk) 01:43, 23 February 2011 (UTC) reply
- To you both - just because you do not know of the song (movie, band, car, city, country or even an established scientific method), does not mean that it is non-notable. If that were the criteria for article creation on WP, then it would be a very empty place. Non-fact based WP:OPINION needs to be kept at a minimum, while WP:NEUTRALITY needs to be kept at a maximum. Something to consider. Srobak ( talk) 12:25, 3 March 2011 (UTC) reply
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Why was the page deleated before any of the information could be consolidated on to the authors website? this was a huge mistake and some notice could have been given.