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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) MrScorch6200 ( talk | ctrb) 00:23, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Cold-fX
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Article was recently tagged for notability. Since it has been around a while and has sources, I am taking it into AfD to decide the issue. If there is a quick consensus in favor of delete, oops, keep, I will withdraw the nomination and close early, but better than leaving a notability tag on the article indefinitely. I lean slightly to delete, but I won't press the issue if the consensus goes the other way.
Safiel (
talk) 21:53, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
- Comment If the editors/contributors of the page cannot transcribe words and passages from the cited source, this page is no longer credible and should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.46.223.130 ( talk) 22:06, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
- Merge The larger issue is that we appear to have the manufacturer aggressively editing Wikipedia in an effort to promote this stuff per [1] I support either keep or merge to American ginseng Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 23:07, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
- Merge Per the relevant notability guideline, WP:PRODUCT, particularly the line "Avoid creating multiple stubs about each individual product ... especially if there is no realistic hope of expansion." Moreover, since American ginseng exists, MOS:PHARM's ( WP:Supplements lacks a MOS) section on layout indicates that, assuming this product is even notable enough for mention here, this simply be added to a subsection on a list of brands in that article. Except in very unusual circumstances, drug articles should always use the generic name for a substance and not its brand name (examples of unusual circumstances include: a sufficiently large history section to merits a separate summary-style article, no generic name for a brand with sufficient notability (notoriety), or the only available generic name for a very notable drug is stupidly long, like Dextroamphetamine Sulfate, Dextroamphetamine Saccharate, Amphetamine Sulfate and Amphetamine Aspartate. Among these examples, hydroxycut is probably the most comparable article for notability comparison, as its a dietary supplement with notoriety. Seppi333 ( Insert 2¢) 00:59, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
- Keep and watch. The article has a rough average of 100 clicks a day, people looking for information on this. If there is evidence from reliable secondary sources as to its efficacy, (as in this case) then people should be able to find this information in an encyclopedia. We would be doing the company editors trying to use Wikipedia as a soapbox a great favour by deleting the article as it is Ochiwar ( talk) 05:46, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
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- Keep Keep as the product is notable, the COI editing should be dealt with either page protection or aggressive monitoring. Mrfrobinson ( talk) 20:30, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Merging with American ginseng does not make sense to me since most people looking for this article would not know to look under ginseng. There have been no edits since it came off protection in late December so there is no current issue with COI edits. If anything, the article is currently unbalanced to the negative side. The product has had widespread distribution and media coverage in Canada and seems notable to me, whether it works or not. Meters ( talk) 21:41, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - Passes WP:GNG. Source examples:
- "Fighting the Common Cold". ABC News. 2005-10-25.
- Does Cold-FX work instantly as claimed? - Canada - CBC News
- Paladin Labs' Afexa Sciences Hostile Takeover Bid Worth $56.7 Million
- Health Canada approves Cold-fX's medical claims | CTV News
- Battle brews to take over Cold-FX maker Afexa - The Globe and Mail
- UBC professors question effectiveness of Cold-fX
- Q&A: The Doctor Who Created Cold-FX | Health Media Today
- Cold-FX maker has failed to deliver on promises: Paladin | Financial Post
- Charlie Gillis (2007-03-26). "COLD-fX catches the sniffles again". Macleans Magazine.
- – Northamerica1000 (talk) 00:09, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - Passes WP:GNG. See reference improvements and additional sources added to article (under "Further reading") by Northamerica1000 - tucoxn\ talk 05:40, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) MrScorch6200 ( talk | ctrb) 00:23, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Cold-fX
- Cold-fX ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Article was recently tagged for notability. Since it has been around a while and has sources, I am taking it into AfD to decide the issue. If there is a quick consensus in favor of delete, oops, keep, I will withdraw the nomination and close early, but better than leaving a notability tag on the article indefinitely. I lean slightly to delete, but I won't press the issue if the consensus goes the other way.
Safiel (
talk) 21:53, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
- Comment If the editors/contributors of the page cannot transcribe words and passages from the cited source, this page is no longer credible and should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.46.223.130 ( talk) 22:06, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
- Merge The larger issue is that we appear to have the manufacturer aggressively editing Wikipedia in an effort to promote this stuff per [1] I support either keep or merge to American ginseng Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 23:07, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
- Merge Per the relevant notability guideline, WP:PRODUCT, particularly the line "Avoid creating multiple stubs about each individual product ... especially if there is no realistic hope of expansion." Moreover, since American ginseng exists, MOS:PHARM's ( WP:Supplements lacks a MOS) section on layout indicates that, assuming this product is even notable enough for mention here, this simply be added to a subsection on a list of brands in that article. Except in very unusual circumstances, drug articles should always use the generic name for a substance and not its brand name (examples of unusual circumstances include: a sufficiently large history section to merits a separate summary-style article, no generic name for a brand with sufficient notability (notoriety), or the only available generic name for a very notable drug is stupidly long, like Dextroamphetamine Sulfate, Dextroamphetamine Saccharate, Amphetamine Sulfate and Amphetamine Aspartate. Among these examples, hydroxycut is probably the most comparable article for notability comparison, as its a dietary supplement with notoriety. Seppi333 ( Insert 2¢) 00:59, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
- Keep and watch. The article has a rough average of 100 clicks a day, people looking for information on this. If there is evidence from reliable secondary sources as to its efficacy, (as in this case) then people should be able to find this information in an encyclopedia. We would be doing the company editors trying to use Wikipedia as a soapbox a great favour by deleting the article as it is Ochiwar ( talk) 05:46, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000 (talk) 16:58, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000 (talk) 16:59, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Northamerica1000 (talk) 16:23, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Northamerica1000 (talk) 12:46, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Keep as the product is notable, the COI editing should be dealt with either page protection or aggressive monitoring. Mrfrobinson ( talk) 20:30, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Merging with American ginseng does not make sense to me since most people looking for this article would not know to look under ginseng. There have been no edits since it came off protection in late December so there is no current issue with COI edits. If anything, the article is currently unbalanced to the negative side. The product has had widespread distribution and media coverage in Canada and seems notable to me, whether it works or not. Meters ( talk) 21:41, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - Passes WP:GNG. Source examples:
- "Fighting the Common Cold". ABC News. 2005-10-25.
- Does Cold-FX work instantly as claimed? - Canada - CBC News
- Paladin Labs' Afexa Sciences Hostile Takeover Bid Worth $56.7 Million
- Health Canada approves Cold-fX's medical claims | CTV News
- Battle brews to take over Cold-FX maker Afexa - The Globe and Mail
- UBC professors question effectiveness of Cold-fX
- Q&A: The Doctor Who Created Cold-FX | Health Media Today
- Cold-FX maker has failed to deliver on promises: Paladin | Financial Post
- Charlie Gillis (2007-03-26). "COLD-fX catches the sniffles again". Macleans Magazine.
- – Northamerica1000 (talk) 00:09, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - Passes WP:GNG. See reference improvements and additional sources added to article (under "Further reading") by Northamerica1000 - tucoxn\ talk 05:40, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
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