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The result was no consensus. Although there are some uncertainties regarding the subject, there is currently no consensus to delete the article. Pax:Vobiscum ( talk) 13:56, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
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Apparently a mill and post office, not a community, according to the State Historical Society (also look under the older names of Howard's Mill and Ritchie Mill). Not on the 1886 topo, but appears on the 1938 one as a point with five buildings. By 1991, there's only two buildings there. USGS apparently isn't exactly for sure where it is/was, as it appears in different locations on the 1991, 2015, and 2017 topos. A self-published family history calls it "the old Cobb store". Whatever it was, GNIS gives it the U6 census code, which is essentially the kiss of death, as U6 is used for non-legally recognized places, which fail WP:GEOLAND. Neither is WP:GNG met, so, sadly, it looks like this one needs to go. Hog Farm Bacon 02:15, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Hog Farm Bacon 02:15, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Missouri-related deletion discussions. Hog Farm Bacon 02:15, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- Keep rural settlement dates to pre-Civil War, per source. Article can be expanded.
72.49.7.25 (
talk)
04:03, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
- Except the source does not call this a settlement. It was a mill, with a post office added later. You aren't providing evidence that it passes WP:GEOLAND; you're just waving your hands in the air and saying WP:ITSNOTABLE. Hog Farm Bacon 14:28, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 ( talk) 05:53, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ─ The Aafī ( talk) 18:44, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Appears to be a settlement. Although this genealogy website is not a reliable source in itself it lists a variety of sources discussing the settlement, For example this book from 1881 describes the settlement on page 296 as having a population of 36, and lists a variety of stores and businesses operating there. 86.23.86.239 ( talk) 02:05, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- I could be blind, but I don't see the word "Cobb" or "Clair" (for the county) there on page 296 in any context. Page 296 seems to be in the H's. Did you mean another page? ♠
PMC♠
(talk)
21:03, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- @
Premeditated Chaos: - It's under the former name of Howard's Mills. Evidently there was some form of a community there at some point (enough for a justice of the peace and several stores), so I'm open to this being closed as keep.
Hog Farm
Bacon
21:09, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- Ohh, okay, I was feeling really stupid there for a minute. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 21:37, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- @
Premeditated Chaos: - It's under the former name of Howard's Mills. Evidently there was some form of a community there at some point (enough for a justice of the peace and several stores), so I'm open to this being closed as keep.
Hog Farm
Bacon
21:09, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- I could be blind, but I don't see the word "Cobb" or "Clair" (for the county) there on page 296 in any context. Page 296 seems to be in the H's. Did you mean another page? ♠
PMC♠
(talk)
21:03, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. Although there are some uncertainties regarding the subject, there is currently no consensus to delete the article. Pax:Vobiscum ( talk) 13:56, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
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- Cobb, St. Clair County, Missouri ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Apparently a mill and post office, not a community, according to the State Historical Society (also look under the older names of Howard's Mill and Ritchie Mill). Not on the 1886 topo, but appears on the 1938 one as a point with five buildings. By 1991, there's only two buildings there. USGS apparently isn't exactly for sure where it is/was, as it appears in different locations on the 1991, 2015, and 2017 topos. A self-published family history calls it "the old Cobb store". Whatever it was, GNIS gives it the U6 census code, which is essentially the kiss of death, as U6 is used for non-legally recognized places, which fail WP:GEOLAND. Neither is WP:GNG met, so, sadly, it looks like this one needs to go. Hog Farm Bacon 02:15, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Hog Farm Bacon 02:15, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Missouri-related deletion discussions. Hog Farm Bacon 02:15, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- Keep rural settlement dates to pre-Civil War, per source. Article can be expanded.
72.49.7.25 (
talk)
04:03, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
- Except the source does not call this a settlement. It was a mill, with a post office added later. You aren't providing evidence that it passes WP:GEOLAND; you're just waving your hands in the air and saying WP:ITSNOTABLE. Hog Farm Bacon 14:28, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 ( talk) 05:53, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ─ The Aafī ( talk) 18:44, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Appears to be a settlement. Although this genealogy website is not a reliable source in itself it lists a variety of sources discussing the settlement, For example this book from 1881 describes the settlement on page 296 as having a population of 36, and lists a variety of stores and businesses operating there. 86.23.86.239 ( talk) 02:05, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- I could be blind, but I don't see the word "Cobb" or "Clair" (for the county) there on page 296 in any context. Page 296 seems to be in the H's. Did you mean another page? ♠
PMC♠
(talk)
21:03, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- @
Premeditated Chaos: - It's under the former name of Howard's Mills. Evidently there was some form of a community there at some point (enough for a justice of the peace and several stores), so I'm open to this being closed as keep.
Hog Farm
Bacon
21:09, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- Ohh, okay, I was feeling really stupid there for a minute. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 21:37, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- @
Premeditated Chaos: - It's under the former name of Howard's Mills. Evidently there was some form of a community there at some point (enough for a justice of the peace and several stores), so I'm open to this being closed as keep.
Hog Farm
Bacon
21:09, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- I could be blind, but I don't see the word "Cobb" or "Clair" (for the county) there on page 296 in any context. Page 296 seems to be in the H's. Did you mean another page? ♠
PMC♠
(talk)
21:03, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.