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The result was redirect to Rick Riordan Presents. Eddie891 Talk Work 20:09, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NBOOK. Only coverage is a less-than-one-sentence "sneak preview" here. AleatoryPonderings ( talk) 18:51, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. AleatoryPonderings ( talk) 18:51, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete as per nom. Maybe also toosoon. Balle010 ( talk) 02:19, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Delete, does not meet WP:NBOOK, not every book of a series has separate reviews for a standalone article, especially one that is yet to be published, way WP:TOOSOON. Coolabahapple ( talk) 03:57, 9 October 2020 (UTC)- Redirect to
Rick Riordan Presents. It's possible that this may gain enough coverage to justify an article once it actually releases, but right now this just doesn't have the coverage to establish notability. I think that a redirect would be best in this situation since the main page does answer some questions to a degree - specifically that this is a book in the Rick Riordan Presents series and the basic gist of what the series is meant to be. When/if the coverage comes about, the redirect can be removed and fleshed out from there.
ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79)
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05:55, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- ReaderofthePack, I realize that this AfD is about the book and not the series, but it's not transparently clear to me that the series/imprint is notable either. City of the Plague God, Rick Riordan Presents, and many of the other books in the series were all created recently in an arguable walled garden, in case that makes a difference to your analysis. AleatoryPonderings ( talk) 13:50, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- It might and I was concerned about that some - I'll take a look and see if there is enough sourcing to establish notability. It looks like the imprint serves as a sort of defacto universe of sorts, akin to the Percy Jackson series, so I think that if there are reviews for the books this may help establish notability. It does need to be cleaned up to be more clear about whether the universes are the same or if this is just a case of it being a series/imprint where each universe is standalone. I'll take a look at this tonight. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 03:05, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- I've done some major cleanup to the article and I think it'd pass muster now. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 09:17, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to Rick Riordan Presents. This is a clear alternative to deletion and the target page could contain information useful to a person interested in the book. Also it's irrelevant at this AfD whether or not the series is notable (I suspect it is, but haven't looked because it's not what's up for discussion). If this were to be redirected and the target page is deleted this will end up deleted as well. But if this is redirected and the book later proves notable (which is a bit of a toss-up in my mind) we've upheld policy by preserving content. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 15:13, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Comment, on revisiting this, have struck out "delete", no harm to redirect as a term of wikireader interest. Coolabahapple ( talk) 13:52, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to Rick Riordan Presents - As the book is not yet out, and there is very little coverage of it so far, it is WP:TOOSOON for it to have its own article. Redirecting it to the article on the franchise it belong to, where it is already listed, would be appropriate for now, though, and if more sources appear once it is released, it can be spun back out into a separate article. Rorshacma ( talk) 15:44, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was redirect to Rick Riordan Presents. Eddie891 Talk Work 20:09, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NBOOK. Only coverage is a less-than-one-sentence "sneak preview" here. AleatoryPonderings ( talk) 18:51, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. AleatoryPonderings ( talk) 18:51, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete as per nom. Maybe also toosoon. Balle010 ( talk) 02:19, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Delete, does not meet WP:NBOOK, not every book of a series has separate reviews for a standalone article, especially one that is yet to be published, way WP:TOOSOON. Coolabahapple ( talk) 03:57, 9 October 2020 (UTC)- Redirect to
Rick Riordan Presents. It's possible that this may gain enough coverage to justify an article once it actually releases, but right now this just doesn't have the coverage to establish notability. I think that a redirect would be best in this situation since the main page does answer some questions to a degree - specifically that this is a book in the Rick Riordan Presents series and the basic gist of what the series is meant to be. When/if the coverage comes about, the redirect can be removed and fleshed out from there.
ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79)
(｡◕‿◕｡)
05:55, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- ReaderofthePack, I realize that this AfD is about the book and not the series, but it's not transparently clear to me that the series/imprint is notable either. City of the Plague God, Rick Riordan Presents, and many of the other books in the series were all created recently in an arguable walled garden, in case that makes a difference to your analysis. AleatoryPonderings ( talk) 13:50, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- It might and I was concerned about that some - I'll take a look and see if there is enough sourcing to establish notability. It looks like the imprint serves as a sort of defacto universe of sorts, akin to the Percy Jackson series, so I think that if there are reviews for the books this may help establish notability. It does need to be cleaned up to be more clear about whether the universes are the same or if this is just a case of it being a series/imprint where each universe is standalone. I'll take a look at this tonight. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 03:05, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- I've done some major cleanup to the article and I think it'd pass muster now. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 09:17, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to Rick Riordan Presents. This is a clear alternative to deletion and the target page could contain information useful to a person interested in the book. Also it's irrelevant at this AfD whether or not the series is notable (I suspect it is, but haven't looked because it's not what's up for discussion). If this were to be redirected and the target page is deleted this will end up deleted as well. But if this is redirected and the book later proves notable (which is a bit of a toss-up in my mind) we've upheld policy by preserving content. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 15:13, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Comment, on revisiting this, have struck out "delete", no harm to redirect as a term of wikireader interest. Coolabahapple ( talk) 13:52, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to Rick Riordan Presents - As the book is not yet out, and there is very little coverage of it so far, it is WP:TOOSOON for it to have its own article. Redirecting it to the article on the franchise it belong to, where it is already listed, would be appropriate for now, though, and if more sources appear once it is released, it can be spun back out into a separate article. Rorshacma ( talk) 15:44, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.