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The result was no consensus or more precisely there is a consensus not to delete, but no consensus as between keep/merge. That discussion can be continued on the article talk page if anyone wishes. Stifle ( talk) 08:18, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
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Poor references on the page, but I think the main problem is that this has been written as a travel guide and WP:NOTGUIDE. At best this needs WP:TNT until someone can write it in a less gushy way. JMWt ( talk) 17:26, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: India and Tamil Nadu. JMWt ( talk) 17:26, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
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- Weak Keep - The article is poorly written and nearly unsourced. That said, there seems to be encyclopaedic info underneath the flowery phrasing. I'd volunteer to help with a rewrite, but there's just nothing to work from and the originator of the article vanished a decade ago (this topic was their only apparent interest). If someone can find me five RSs in English, I'll do a rewrite. Otherwise, I'll reluctantly switch my !vote to Delete. Cheers, Last1in ( talk) 16:13, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - It's kinda hard to find sourcing for this location, as almost all sources I'm pulling up are discussing a freedom fighter or transport company under the same name. I agree this reads like a travel guide, and it's admirable that Last1in is willing to re-write if sources are found, but if the sources aren't present then - even should there theoretically be encyclopedic information - the article isn't fit for inclusion. I've tried my best to find some and have failed miserably. To my legitimate surprise looking up Chinnamalai on WP:TWL gave nothing. I'm more than happy to swap if someone else with a better grasp of the subject area pulls up some, but right now, I'm inclined towards delete due to no available WP:RS and thus WP:GNG failure. — Sirdog ( talk) 06:16, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
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- Weak keep Reading this it looks to me as notable, but didn’t do an extensive WP:Before. But it might be good to remove all the unsourced text. 109.37.150.153 ( talk) 11:14, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 17:51, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep or merge to
Saidapet -- I can find a few sources, but they basically only cover the first paragraph of the current article.
Source 1,
Source 2,
Source 3. A lot of sources seem to prefer the anglicized form "Little Mount", hence why "Chinnamalai" seems to get so few results. Anyway, these 3 sources do a pretty good job establishing this place's location, its religious significance, and the fact that it has 2 churches (one built in 1551 and the other in 1971 or 1972). They also say it's the least important of the three sites in Chennai associated with St. Thomas. That's... pretty much it. The article is probably keepable as a little stub, but it wouldn't have a whole lot of content. Merging with
Saidapet, the neighborhood it's in, is another option. It's probably a matter of personal preference.
3 kids in a trenchcoat (
talk)
22:09, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - I could definitely get behind a merge into the general neighbourhood. Cheers, Last1in ( talk) 22:18, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting to see if there is more support for a Merge.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 20:40, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - seems to be of similar importance to Parangimalai in terms of religious significance per https://www.proquest.com/docview/1825713109/5698DFC3BA394774PQ/21. - Indefensible ( talk) 03:21, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus or more precisely there is a consensus not to delete, but no consensus as between keep/merge. That discussion can be continued on the article talk page if anyone wishes. Stifle ( talk) 08:18, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
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- Chinnamalai ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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Poor references on the page, but I think the main problem is that this has been written as a travel guide and WP:NOTGUIDE. At best this needs WP:TNT until someone can write it in a less gushy way. JMWt ( talk) 17:26, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: India and Tamil Nadu. JMWt ( talk) 17:26, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:02, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
- Weak Keep - The article is poorly written and nearly unsourced. That said, there seems to be encyclopaedic info underneath the flowery phrasing. I'd volunteer to help with a rewrite, but there's just nothing to work from and the originator of the article vanished a decade ago (this topic was their only apparent interest). If someone can find me five RSs in English, I'll do a rewrite. Otherwise, I'll reluctantly switch my !vote to Delete. Cheers, Last1in ( talk) 16:13, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - It's kinda hard to find sourcing for this location, as almost all sources I'm pulling up are discussing a freedom fighter or transport company under the same name. I agree this reads like a travel guide, and it's admirable that Last1in is willing to re-write if sources are found, but if the sources aren't present then - even should there theoretically be encyclopedic information - the article isn't fit for inclusion. I've tried my best to find some and have failed miserably. To my legitimate surprise looking up Chinnamalai on WP:TWL gave nothing. I'm more than happy to swap if someone else with a better grasp of the subject area pulls up some, but right now, I'm inclined towards delete due to no available WP:RS and thus WP:GNG failure. — Sirdog ( talk) 06:16, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
UTC)
- Weak keep Reading this it looks to me as notable, but didn’t do an extensive WP:Before. But it might be good to remove all the unsourced text. 109.37.150.153 ( talk) 11:14, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 17:51, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep or merge to
Saidapet -- I can find a few sources, but they basically only cover the first paragraph of the current article.
Source 1,
Source 2,
Source 3. A lot of sources seem to prefer the anglicized form "Little Mount", hence why "Chinnamalai" seems to get so few results. Anyway, these 3 sources do a pretty good job establishing this place's location, its religious significance, and the fact that it has 2 churches (one built in 1551 and the other in 1971 or 1972). They also say it's the least important of the three sites in Chennai associated with St. Thomas. That's... pretty much it. The article is probably keepable as a little stub, but it wouldn't have a whole lot of content. Merging with
Saidapet, the neighborhood it's in, is another option. It's probably a matter of personal preference.
3 kids in a trenchcoat (
talk)
22:09, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - I could definitely get behind a merge into the general neighbourhood. Cheers, Last1in ( talk) 22:18, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting to see if there is more support for a Merge.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 20:40, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - seems to be of similar importance to Parangimalai in terms of religious significance per https://www.proquest.com/docview/1825713109/5698DFC3BA394774PQ/21. - Indefensible ( talk) 03:21, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
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