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The result was delete. Daniel ( talk) 13:43, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
Charles Lamar Grant (actor)
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Article about a non-notable actor that has been moved to draft twice and speedily deleted once, all very recently. The creator created this article under a new name adding "(actor)" at the end. Fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG, as the references are either useless or say nothing about the actor, just projects they have participated in. I also cannot find anything on them when I look them up myself (in fact, it says "no results"). Coreykai ( talk) 17:45, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete and salt Reads like a promotional article as well. Lettler hello • contribs 17:49, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:13, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete (preferably speedy as {{ Db-g4}}). Pi.1415926535 ( talk) 18:30, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Do it slowly. Kolma8 ( talk) 19:07, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete, delete, delete, delete..is this like the fourth time? Doesn't meet the notability guideline all day and night every day forever and ever and ever, even the imaginary one the fairy outside my window secretly whispered to me. -- ARoseWolf ( Talk) 19:25, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - (Article creator.) I wasn't notified about this? I think I requested previous deletions of draft. Recreated when found additional citations. There are more I haven't included, such as https://www.broadwayworld.com/people/Charles-Grant/, https://portlandplayhouse.org/staff-member/charles-grant/, https://artistsrep.org/artists/charles-grant/, but not sure if they help? I thought "Matter" at the Portland Playhouse and its buzz and its relation to the "Black Lives Matter" movement warranted conclusion via WP:CREATIVE, but if not may I suggest a page for that instead and/or the Portland Playhouse? I added the "(actor)" and "Lamar" parts (per IMDB) to distinguish from other Charles Grant (another actor and a writer). -- HistoricalAccountings ( talk) 21:36, 15 January 2021 WP:NACTOR - Has had significant roles in multiple notable stage performances or other productions / Has made unique, or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment (MATTER). I will go along with consensus obviously and won't resubmit whatever the decision, but obviously I vote to keep. HistoricalAccountings ( talk) 19:37, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete not even close to being a notable actor. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 20:48, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. The article is just a list of credits. If you want to write an encyclopedia article, you need to write narrative paragraphs that tell a biographical story sourced to reliable published third-party sources that explain the person's encyclopedic importance. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 03:45, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Salt if the consensus is ignored again. Clarityfiend ( talk) 07:20, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: Clearly fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. -- LACaliNYC ✉ 22:50, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. No good references and looks almost promotional. I can definitely see room for improvement though, if the tone of voice of the article changes and more appropriate references added, then my vote would change. CAVETOWNFAN ( talk) 14:35, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Daniel ( talk) 13:43, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
Charles Lamar Grant (actor)
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Article about a non-notable actor that has been moved to draft twice and speedily deleted once, all very recently. The creator created this article under a new name adding "(actor)" at the end. Fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG, as the references are either useless or say nothing about the actor, just projects they have participated in. I also cannot find anything on them when I look them up myself (in fact, it says "no results"). Coreykai ( talk) 17:45, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete and salt Reads like a promotional article as well. Lettler hello • contribs 17:49, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:13, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Theatre-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:14, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:15, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:15, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Oregon-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:16, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete (preferably speedy as {{ Db-g4}}). Pi.1415926535 ( talk) 18:30, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Do it slowly. Kolma8 ( talk) 19:07, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete, delete, delete, delete..is this like the fourth time? Doesn't meet the notability guideline all day and night every day forever and ever and ever, even the imaginary one the fairy outside my window secretly whispered to me. -- ARoseWolf ( Talk) 19:25, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - (Article creator.) I wasn't notified about this? I think I requested previous deletions of draft. Recreated when found additional citations. There are more I haven't included, such as https://www.broadwayworld.com/people/Charles-Grant/, https://portlandplayhouse.org/staff-member/charles-grant/, https://artistsrep.org/artists/charles-grant/, but not sure if they help? I thought "Matter" at the Portland Playhouse and its buzz and its relation to the "Black Lives Matter" movement warranted conclusion via WP:CREATIVE, but if not may I suggest a page for that instead and/or the Portland Playhouse? I added the "(actor)" and "Lamar" parts (per IMDB) to distinguish from other Charles Grant (another actor and a writer). -- HistoricalAccountings ( talk) 21:36, 15 January 2021 WP:NACTOR - Has had significant roles in multiple notable stage performances or other productions / Has made unique, or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment (MATTER). I will go along with consensus obviously and won't resubmit whatever the decision, but obviously I vote to keep. HistoricalAccountings ( talk) 19:37, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete not even close to being a notable actor. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 20:48, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. The article is just a list of credits. If you want to write an encyclopedia article, you need to write narrative paragraphs that tell a biographical story sourced to reliable published third-party sources that explain the person's encyclopedic importance. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 03:45, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Salt if the consensus is ignored again. Clarityfiend ( talk) 07:20, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: Clearly fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. -- LACaliNYC ✉ 22:50, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. No good references and looks almost promotional. I can definitely see room for improvement though, if the tone of voice of the article changes and more appropriate references added, then my vote would change. CAVETOWNFAN ( talk) 14:35, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
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