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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 23:23, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
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Previously deleted by PROD because it has the name of a well (چه, or chah, means well in Persian). The new source in this version by a different user does not help us, as it is a database search for the 2015 Iranian census, and this place name failed WP:V. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 19:34, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Iran. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 19:34, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- Comment - I translated the article from Perisan Wikipedia. User:Moondragon21 05:16, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:V, since we don't have a reliable source confirming the existence of the subject. The Iranian census is not suitable for this purpose because it includes many entries which are not populated places. The Persian Wikipedia version is also referenced only to the Iranian census. Hut 8.5 17:31, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - per every other discussion of these Iranian abadi. Specifically the Iranian census counts people according to whether they live near a reference point, and the reference point can be literally anything. In this case, the reference point is apparently a well. This means it fails WP:Geoland#1 as it is not a legally-recognised populated place, but instead just a well.
- User:Moondragon21 - Persian Wikipedia copied a whole load of bad articles from English Wikipedia. Many of them are even cited directly to English Wikipedia. It is best not to try to copy articles directly from Persian Wikipedia unless you are sure they have good sourcing and is about something notable. FOARP ( talk) 08:18, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Comment - All fair points. I will redirect to
Dezful instead.
User:Moondragon21
09:22, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Other than WP:CHEAP, what is the meaningful reason to redirect to Dezful? The subject is not mentioned there, nor is there any meaningful information (because there's none available) there. Imagine creating a redirect that is just "Simon's Well, New York City" that redirects to New York City. Frankly I oppose redirection in these cases as basically pointless. FOARP ( talk) 10:51, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- I agree with this, there's no point in redirecting unless the target article actually mentions the subject. And a merge would be a bad idea given the lack of sources to confirm the subject's existence. Hut 8.5 13:03, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 23:23, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
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- Chah-e Shirin, Dezful ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Previously deleted by PROD because it has the name of a well (چه, or chah, means well in Persian). The new source in this version by a different user does not help us, as it is a database search for the 2015 Iranian census, and this place name failed WP:V. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 19:34, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Iran. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 19:34, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- Comment - I translated the article from Perisan Wikipedia. User:Moondragon21 05:16, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:V, since we don't have a reliable source confirming the existence of the subject. The Iranian census is not suitable for this purpose because it includes many entries which are not populated places. The Persian Wikipedia version is also referenced only to the Iranian census. Hut 8.5 17:31, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - per every other discussion of these Iranian abadi. Specifically the Iranian census counts people according to whether they live near a reference point, and the reference point can be literally anything. In this case, the reference point is apparently a well. This means it fails WP:Geoland#1 as it is not a legally-recognised populated place, but instead just a well.
- User:Moondragon21 - Persian Wikipedia copied a whole load of bad articles from English Wikipedia. Many of them are even cited directly to English Wikipedia. It is best not to try to copy articles directly from Persian Wikipedia unless you are sure they have good sourcing and is about something notable. FOARP ( talk) 08:18, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Comment - All fair points. I will redirect to
Dezful instead.
User:Moondragon21
09:22, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Other than WP:CHEAP, what is the meaningful reason to redirect to Dezful? The subject is not mentioned there, nor is there any meaningful information (because there's none available) there. Imagine creating a redirect that is just "Simon's Well, New York City" that redirects to New York City. Frankly I oppose redirection in these cases as basically pointless. FOARP ( talk) 10:51, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- I agree with this, there's no point in redirecting unless the target article actually mentions the subject. And a merge would be a bad idea given the lack of sources to confirm the subject's existence. Hut 8.5 13:03, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.