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The result was redirect to Huachuca City, Arizona. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 07:23, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
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Yet another isolated rail station/siding, this time on the outskirts of Huachuca City. There is a small cemetery there, but every reference to it that gives anything like a description calls it either a station or a siding. Mangoe ( talk) 19:27, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
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Delete Weak Keep Campstone was part of a
previous blanket AfD which had a procedural keep. Having a separate AfD for Manzoro is fine with me. In the previous blanket AfD,
Reywas92 wrote: "Delete ... except for Campstone:
[1]
[2]. I would encourage a
List of stops of the Southern Pacific Railroad or similar to include mention without the need for separate pages." In the previous blanket AfD,
Pontificalibus wrote "Campstone was the station serving
Huachuca City, Arizona (
source) so should redirect there." The references indicate that there was a community there. However the
1906 railroad reference does not mention a post office at Campstone.
Cxbrx (
talk)
15:23, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
- I've change my position to delete. Campstone does not meet WP:GEOLAND #1 and the coverage is trivial so it does not meet WP:GEOLAND #2. Cxbrx ( talk) 16:32, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to Huachuca City, Arizona where it's already mentioned, per my comments at previous the AfD. It's a previous name for that place as well as the name of the former station there.---- Pontificalibus 05:39, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
- That passage is uncited, and the topos suggest that it isn't true. What they and the aerials show was that the place was built as a subdivision at the north gate of the base, well away from the railroad and named "Huachuca Vista"; a second subdivision was built on the south side of the rail line east of Campstone named "Huachuca Village", both to support military base, and in 1958 the two did indeed vote to incorporate. This I can cite
here, but there's no mention of Campstone in the article. This clipping is part of a large collection of material on the place at the Arzona Memory Project, and I will have to see of any of it specifically discusses Campstone, but our article onthe CIty needs work in this area and cannot be relied upon.
Mangoe (
talk)
18:16, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
- I gave a source in the first AfD for this redirect: "Campstone or Huachuca City depending on whether you are a railroad man or a resident". But here's another: "Huachuca City (which had formerly been known as Camp Stone, Campstone, and Huachuca Vista)" and another: "First called Campstone Station, then Sunset City, the name was changed to Huachuca". These three sources are preferable to looking at maps, which only show a single point in time and which as you've demonstrated require some interpretation.---- Pontificalibus 18:32, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
- That passage is uncited, and the topos suggest that it isn't true. What they and the aerials show was that the place was built as a subdivision at the north gate of the base, well away from the railroad and named "Huachuca Vista"; a second subdivision was built on the south side of the rail line east of Campstone named "Huachuca Village", both to support military base, and in 1958 the two did indeed vote to incorporate. This I can cite
here, but there's no mention of Campstone in the article. This clipping is part of a large collection of material on the place at the Arzona Memory Project, and I will have to see of any of it specifically discusses Campstone, but our article onthe CIty needs work in this area and cannot be relied upon.
Mangoe (
talk)
18:16, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect per Pontificalibus. I find mentions in newspapers in the 20s & 30s like [3] and [4] that justify the redirect. MB 05:14, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to Huachuca City, Arizona: per above // Timothy :: talk 04:30, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Huachuca City, Arizona. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 07:23, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
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Yet another isolated rail station/siding, this time on the outskirts of Huachuca City. There is a small cemetery there, but every reference to it that gives anything like a description calls it either a station or a siding. Mangoe ( talk) 19:27, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 20:09, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arizona-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 20:10, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Delete Weak Keep Campstone was part of a
previous blanket AfD which had a procedural keep. Having a separate AfD for Manzoro is fine with me. In the previous blanket AfD,
Reywas92 wrote: "Delete ... except for Campstone:
[1]
[2]. I would encourage a
List of stops of the Southern Pacific Railroad or similar to include mention without the need for separate pages." In the previous blanket AfD,
Pontificalibus wrote "Campstone was the station serving
Huachuca City, Arizona (
source) so should redirect there." The references indicate that there was a community there. However the
1906 railroad reference does not mention a post office at Campstone.
Cxbrx (
talk)
15:23, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
- I've change my position to delete. Campstone does not meet WP:GEOLAND #1 and the coverage is trivial so it does not meet WP:GEOLAND #2. Cxbrx ( talk) 16:32, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to Huachuca City, Arizona where it's already mentioned, per my comments at previous the AfD. It's a previous name for that place as well as the name of the former station there.---- Pontificalibus 05:39, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
- That passage is uncited, and the topos suggest that it isn't true. What they and the aerials show was that the place was built as a subdivision at the north gate of the base, well away from the railroad and named "Huachuca Vista"; a second subdivision was built on the south side of the rail line east of Campstone named "Huachuca Village", both to support military base, and in 1958 the two did indeed vote to incorporate. This I can cite
here, but there's no mention of Campstone in the article. This clipping is part of a large collection of material on the place at the Arzona Memory Project, and I will have to see of any of it specifically discusses Campstone, but our article onthe CIty needs work in this area and cannot be relied upon.
Mangoe (
talk)
18:16, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
- I gave a source in the first AfD for this redirect: "Campstone or Huachuca City depending on whether you are a railroad man or a resident". But here's another: "Huachuca City (which had formerly been known as Camp Stone, Campstone, and Huachuca Vista)" and another: "First called Campstone Station, then Sunset City, the name was changed to Huachuca". These three sources are preferable to looking at maps, which only show a single point in time and which as you've demonstrated require some interpretation.---- Pontificalibus 18:32, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
- That passage is uncited, and the topos suggest that it isn't true. What they and the aerials show was that the place was built as a subdivision at the north gate of the base, well away from the railroad and named "Huachuca Vista"; a second subdivision was built on the south side of the rail line east of Campstone named "Huachuca Village", both to support military base, and in 1958 the two did indeed vote to incorporate. This I can cite
here, but there's no mention of Campstone in the article. This clipping is part of a large collection of material on the place at the Arzona Memory Project, and I will have to see of any of it specifically discusses Campstone, but our article onthe CIty needs work in this area and cannot be relied upon.
Mangoe (
talk)
18:16, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect per Pontificalibus. I find mentions in newspapers in the 20s & 30s like [3] and [4] that justify the redirect. MB 05:14, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to Huachuca City, Arizona: per above // Timothy :: talk 04:30, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
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