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The result was keep‎. Discussion around scope, refocusing article etc. can continue on the talk page. Daniel ( talk) 21:46, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Calls for the destruction of Israel

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Please don't shoot the messenger. This article is a summary WP:POVFORK of various tangentially-related pages and is full of WP:SYNTH and WP:OR. For example, "so-and-so body says X." Then, "Palestinians do XX", which is implied as a violation of the previous sentence. The entire article is like this. WP:TNT. We have so many articles with overlapping scopes. Anti-Zionism, Antisemitism in the Arab world, Khaybar Khaybar ya yahud, Incitement to genocide, Palestinian political violence, Palestinian genocide accusation, Zionist entity, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Israel, Second Holocaust... I simply do not see what was the need of another article saying what so many others do. Wikipedia does not fragmentise other conflicts to this excessive degree. It makes navigating articles about this topic needlessly confusing. Crampcomes ( talk) 18:25, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Keep - What pages do you contend this is a fork of? PrimaPrime ( talk) 11:42, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply
We have so many articles with overlapping scopes. Antisemitism in the Arab world, Khaybar Khaybar ya yahud, Incitement to genocide, Palestinian political violence, Palestinian genocide accusation, Zionist entity, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Israel, Second Holocaust... Crampcomes ( talk) 07:17, 15 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Topics being related or overlapping somewhat doesn't make this article a fork; that would be if we already had a page like Opposition to Israel's existence.
I agree that this conflict area has spawned a lot of articles focusing on rather trivial individual aspects thereof, and it might be better to merge some of them into longer and more general pages, but that's not an AFD question so long as each article in question does cover a distinctly notable topic. Maybe start a discussion over at WikiProject Israel Palestine Collaboration? PrimaPrime ( talk) 23:04, 15 January 2024 (UTC) reply
@ PrimaPrime this page is a fork of anti-zionism. VR (Please ping on reply) 02:31, 16 January 2024 (UTC) reply
That you just redirected that former redlink to your preferred topic does nothing to bolster your case. PrimaPrime ( talk) 02:37, 16 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Longhornsg ( talk) 05:54, 15 January 2024 (UTC) reply
By the way, I noticed that the opening phrase of both was first (I assume) recently used by myself in an impulsive random patrol AfD in this topic area that was closed as speedy keep without votes…
RadioactiveBoulevardier ( talk) 15:26, 15 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep Notable topic in its own right.
Per Svartner, I agree more or less completely with them.
RadioactiveBoulevardier ( talk) 15:27, 15 January 2024 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. Discussion around scope, refocusing article etc. can continue on the talk page. Daniel ( talk) 21:46, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Calls for the destruction of Israel

Calls for the destruction of Israel (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
(Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Please don't shoot the messenger. This article is a summary WP:POVFORK of various tangentially-related pages and is full of WP:SYNTH and WP:OR. For example, "so-and-so body says X." Then, "Palestinians do XX", which is implied as a violation of the previous sentence. The entire article is like this. WP:TNT. We have so many articles with overlapping scopes. Anti-Zionism, Antisemitism in the Arab world, Khaybar Khaybar ya yahud, Incitement to genocide, Palestinian political violence, Palestinian genocide accusation, Zionist entity, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Israel, Second Holocaust... I simply do not see what was the need of another article saying what so many others do. Wikipedia does not fragmentise other conflicts to this excessive degree. It makes navigating articles about this topic needlessly confusing. Crampcomes ( talk) 18:25, 13 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Keep - What pages do you contend this is a fork of? PrimaPrime ( talk) 11:42, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply
We have so many articles with overlapping scopes. Antisemitism in the Arab world, Khaybar Khaybar ya yahud, Incitement to genocide, Palestinian political violence, Palestinian genocide accusation, Zionist entity, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Israel, Second Holocaust... Crampcomes ( talk) 07:17, 15 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Topics being related or overlapping somewhat doesn't make this article a fork; that would be if we already had a page like Opposition to Israel's existence.
I agree that this conflict area has spawned a lot of articles focusing on rather trivial individual aspects thereof, and it might be better to merge some of them into longer and more general pages, but that's not an AFD question so long as each article in question does cover a distinctly notable topic. Maybe start a discussion over at WikiProject Israel Palestine Collaboration? PrimaPrime ( talk) 23:04, 15 January 2024 (UTC) reply
@ PrimaPrime this page is a fork of anti-zionism. VR (Please ping on reply) 02:31, 16 January 2024 (UTC) reply
That you just redirected that former redlink to your preferred topic does nothing to bolster your case. PrimaPrime ( talk) 02:37, 16 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Longhornsg ( talk) 05:54, 15 January 2024 (UTC) reply
By the way, I noticed that the opening phrase of both was first (I assume) recently used by myself in an impulsive random patrol AfD in this topic area that was closed as speedy keep without votes…
RadioactiveBoulevardier ( talk) 15:26, 15 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Keep Notable topic in its own right.
Per Svartner, I agree more or less completely with them.
RadioactiveBoulevardier ( talk) 15:27, 15 January 2024 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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