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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) b uidh e 00:35, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
Bull Run Mountain Estates, Virginia
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Although this large housing development is a CDP and appears on topo maps, our WP:NGEO guideline specifically excludes "maps and various tables" from establishing notability. Aside from real estate listings, I found two sources that mention the name: A brief mention that it was used in the 2010 census [1] and something about a severe storm that's likely based on map data [2]. This level of coverage is insufficient to meet GNG. – dlthewave ☎ 22:31, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
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- Keep CDPs are generally presumed notable. In addition to the two sources you got, I was able to find [3] [4] [5] [6]. Definitely notable community. ~ EDDY ( talk/ contribs)~ 20:33, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
- Weak
deletekeep, idk I'm still conflicted on CDPs at the moment, having made comments elsewhere, but I the idea that the primary source [4] of an HOA's bylaws counts toward notability is ridiculous, it should never even be used as a source in an article generally. The source [6] is also a primary source merely saying that it's a subdivision in an article where certain insects live without encyclopedic content, and source [3] is mundane local news, which refers to the area in general, not limited to the subdivision or the CDP. Bull Run Mountains already mentions the Estates and the fact people live there can be expanded on with the WaPo source, but it is fairly decent as a local-interest article. Reywas92 Talk 01:37, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 00:13, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 00:13, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
- Keep A populated place that's referred to by the name of the development, as opposed to an article about a housing development, see my Loudoun Valley Estates !keep vote for a similar analogy. SportingFlyer T· C 21:37, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- Keep As a legally recognized, populated place. Worth noting that these CDPs are often not completely coterminous with the HOA boundaries despite sharing the same name - I live in the CDP of Lake Barcroft, Virginia but am not part of the Lake Barcroft HOA. Smartyllama ( talk) 14:34, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) b uidh e 00:35, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
Bull Run Mountain Estates, Virginia
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Although this large housing development is a CDP and appears on topo maps, our WP:NGEO guideline specifically excludes "maps and various tables" from establishing notability. Aside from real estate listings, I found two sources that mention the name: A brief mention that it was used in the 2010 census [1] and something about a severe storm that's likely based on map data [2]. This level of coverage is insufficient to meet GNG. – dlthewave ☎ 22:31, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. – dlthewave ☎ 22:31, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Virginia-related deletion discussions. – dlthewave ☎ 22:31, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
- Keep CDPs are generally presumed notable. In addition to the two sources you got, I was able to find [3] [4] [5] [6]. Definitely notable community. ~ EDDY ( talk/ contribs)~ 20:33, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
- Weak
deletekeep, idk I'm still conflicted on CDPs at the moment, having made comments elsewhere, but I the idea that the primary source [4] of an HOA's bylaws counts toward notability is ridiculous, it should never even be used as a source in an article generally. The source [6] is also a primary source merely saying that it's a subdivision in an article where certain insects live without encyclopedic content, and source [3] is mundane local news, which refers to the area in general, not limited to the subdivision or the CDP. Bull Run Mountains already mentions the Estates and the fact people live there can be expanded on with the WaPo source, but it is fairly decent as a local-interest article. Reywas92 Talk 01:37, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 00:13, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 00:13, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
- Keep A populated place that's referred to by the name of the development, as opposed to an article about a housing development, see my Loudoun Valley Estates !keep vote for a similar analogy. SportingFlyer T· C 21:37, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
- Keep As a legally recognized, populated place. Worth noting that these CDPs are often not completely coterminous with the HOA boundaries despite sharing the same name - I live in the CDP of Lake Barcroft, Virginia but am not part of the Lake Barcroft HOA. Smartyllama ( talk) 14:34, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
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