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The result was redirect to Browns Canyon National Monument. Daniel ( talk) 01:58, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
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Deprodded with "Notable enough to have a page in the Geographic Names Information System; why does Wikipedia have to have a higher standard for notability?" Yes, Wikipedia does in fact have a higher standard for notability because the WP:GNIS does not determine notability at all, it's merely a database of any name that has ever appeared on a map. They have no discretion in determining "notability" and quite frequently make mistakes in their classification! The topo map that the GNIS took its data from clearly shows just a site on the railroad. Several newspapers.com results mentioning the location near Browns Canyon, often as "Browns canon" with lowercase c, without establishing notability. Reywas92 Talk 01:05, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. Jeffrey Beall (talk) 11:41, 22 December 2021 (UTC).
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Reywas92 Talk 01:05, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Colorado-related deletion discussions. Reywas92 Talk 01:05, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Browns Canyon National Monument per WP:CHEAP. FOARP ( talk) 15:44, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:GNG and GEOLAND. Avilich ( talk) 19:11, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: In deprodding, the original author of this article said "why does Wikipedia have to have a higher standard for notability," which is still a question we can ask after 20 years of this project. But still, putting that aside, I see "Browns Canon" is listed as a subdivision of Chaffee County on the 1930 U.S. census and at least as far back at 1900. [1]. It also had a post office from 1888-98 and 1904-08. So it may well be notable, I haven't dug too much.-- Milowent • has spoken 22:25, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- Post offices and census-tracts are not evidence of legal recognition. One is a business that could be operated off someone's porch, or as part of a store, the other is simply an accounting-unit for population within a larger community. FOARP ( talk) 10:18, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- 'Redirect to Browns Canyon National Monument per WP:ATD unless significant sourcing can be uncovered. ~ EDDY ( talk/ contribs)~ 01:49, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Browns Canyon National Monument. Daniel ( talk) 01:58, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
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- Browns Canon, Colorado ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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Deprodded with "Notable enough to have a page in the Geographic Names Information System; why does Wikipedia have to have a higher standard for notability?" Yes, Wikipedia does in fact have a higher standard for notability because the WP:GNIS does not determine notability at all, it's merely a database of any name that has ever appeared on a map. They have no discretion in determining "notability" and quite frequently make mistakes in their classification! The topo map that the GNIS took its data from clearly shows just a site on the railroad. Several newspapers.com results mentioning the location near Browns Canyon, often as "Browns canon" with lowercase c, without establishing notability. Reywas92 Talk 01:05, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. Jeffrey Beall (talk) 11:41, 22 December 2021 (UTC).
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Reywas92 Talk 01:05, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Colorado-related deletion discussions. Reywas92 Talk 01:05, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Browns Canyon National Monument per WP:CHEAP. FOARP ( talk) 15:44, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:GNG and GEOLAND. Avilich ( talk) 19:11, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: In deprodding, the original author of this article said "why does Wikipedia have to have a higher standard for notability," which is still a question we can ask after 20 years of this project. But still, putting that aside, I see "Browns Canon" is listed as a subdivision of Chaffee County on the 1930 U.S. census and at least as far back at 1900. [1]. It also had a post office from 1888-98 and 1904-08. So it may well be notable, I haven't dug too much.-- Milowent • has spoken 22:25, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- Post offices and census-tracts are not evidence of legal recognition. One is a business that could be operated off someone's porch, or as part of a store, the other is simply an accounting-unit for population within a larger community. FOARP ( talk) 10:18, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
- 'Redirect to Browns Canyon National Monument per WP:ATD unless significant sourcing can be uncovered. ~ EDDY ( talk/ contribs)~ 01:49, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
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