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The result was redirect to Red Rocket (film). Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:09, 22 February 2022 (UTC) reply

Brittney Rodriguez

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Only one notable role (aka it's "too early" for this article), fails WP:NACTOR CapnZapp ( talk) 17:20, 8 February 2022 (UTC) reply

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. CapnZapp ( talk) 17:20, 8 February 2022 (UTC) reply
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• Oppose - Subject has received significant coverage in New York Times and two regional papers) as a first time actor plucked off the street who received film festival recognition and awards during the film's release. Also received notability as a mural artist. This qualifies as unique and innovative per WP:NACTOR. Kire1975 ( talk) 18:34, 8 February 2022 (UTC) Comparable to Besedka Johnson. Kire1975 ( talk) 18:39, 8 February 2022 (UTC) reply

Reply: I know you created the article, so please don't take it personally. I evaluated your arguments but unfortunately I don't see any strong arguments for canceling this AfD: coverage in multiple notable RSS is irrelevant; first time actor plucked off the street if anything the claim "the director uses first-time talent" can be sourced, but that does not justify this article; notability as a mural artist no source establish her notability as an artist independently of her film role; Comparable to Besedka Johnson No it isn't. Please understand you have done nothing wrong by creating the article - many people including myself have seen articles get deleted because of precisely NACTOR's two role requirement. CapnZapp ( talk) 19:16, 8 February 2022 (UTC) reply

Is Besedka Johnson notable outside her one film role? Kire1975 ( talk) 02:33, 19 February 2022 (UTC) reply

I would like to encourage you to bring up that question at its article's talk page. Thank you CapnZapp ( talk) 09:22, 19 February 2022 (UTC) reply

Sorry, I must have assumed you had a reason for saying "no it isn't". Kire1975 ( talk) 10:54, 19 February 2022 (UTC) reply

• Redirect to Red Rocket (film). The notability guidelines for actresses require multiple roles in significant productions. Since whatever reliable coverage we have is almost all connected with this one film, a redirect seems the most logical choise at this point. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 19:24, 8 February 2022 (UTC) reply

Comment: I'm not sure we should circumvent the criteria for article creation that way. As I understand it, the intent of NACTOR is for any link to the actor to remain red until the two-credit criteria is fulfilled. See for instance Raegan Revord (link is red), an actress that is much closer to fulfilling NACTOR than the subject of the article discussed here. Regards, CapnZapp ( talk) 06:14, 9 February 2022 (UTC) reply

• Delete. A couple of pieces of local/regional coverage, but the rest of the sources only mention her in passing in connection to the film. Does not meet WP:NACTOR at this time, and not enough content on which to base a WP:BLP. -- Kinu  ^t/ _c 19:20, 13 February 2022 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 19:27, 15 February 2022 (UTC) reply

• Reply - The New York Times story is more than passing. Local/regional does not make RSS not RSS. Kire1975 ( talk) 15:52, 19 February 2022 (UTC) reply

Please read up on what we are discussing here. The reliability of sources is not relevant. CapnZapp ( talk) 09:10, 21 February 2022 (UTC) reply

• Is there a "not enough content" section on the WP:BLP policy page? The reason I created this is I noticed that athletes get stub pages all the time. According to his own count, User:Lugnuts has created over 93,000 of them. Ioan Wetzer, for example, played five friendly matches for Romania in 1942 and nobody's trying to delete that page. Kire1975 ( talk) 02:33, 19 February 2022 (UTC) reply

  First off, just because other stuff exists is not a good reason to justify it here. That said, you are comparing apples to oranges here. Please examine WP:NACTOR and WP:SPORTSPERSON and take special note of the differences. (I haven't even visited Wetzer's page and I am not suggesting his article is appropriate. Nor am I suggesting it is inappropriate). Cheers CapnZapp ( talk) 09:16, 19 February 2022 (UTC) reply

• Redirect to Red Rocket (film), as an WP:ATD. Does not meet either WP:GNG or WP:NACTOR. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:34, 19 February 2022 (UTC) reply

Reply Re: WP:GNG: the subject has received more than a trivial mention in the New York Times and two regional reliable, secondary, independent sources independent of the subject. 13:47, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Please read up on what we are discussing here. The number of newspaper mentions is irrelevant. Rodriguez is presented as an actor and an artist. There are no grounds for general notability. As for acting, she fails NACTOR. As for an artist I see zero notability. CapnZapp ( talk) 09:10, 21 February 2022 (UTC) reply

Reply From WP:GNG that you linked to first: "Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material." This is not about "number of newspaper mentions." Kire1975 ( talk) 14:40, 21 February 2022 (UTC) reply

Please read and understand the very next section ( WP:SNG) before making irrelevant commentary. That is, ask yourself: for what accomplishments are you arguing Rodriguez is notable? If "as an actress", then WP:NACTOR applies. If "as a mural artist", then sorry, but a mere mention in passing in articles focused on the movie does not a notable mural artist make. Where is the coverage of her work and recognition thereof? If not an actor and not an artist, then what? The article offers no further suggestions. Which is why the article has ended up here. Let's be honest, the sole reason the article was created was her role in Red Rocket. It is clear to me she deserves an article if and when she gains a second notable role, not before. CapnZapp ( talk) 09:54, 22 February 2022 (UTC) reply

• Redirect to Red Rocket. I don't see scrubbing this page's history as a good option here, especially if she has other acting roles in the future. KidAd • SPEAK 21:07, 22 February 2022 (UTC) reply

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