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The result was delete. Sandstein 11:15, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
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The article is a synthesis of events that are largely unrelated - although they were all precipitated by Brexit, the internal strife within Labour is nothing to do with the resignation of Cameron, and Farage's resignation isn't a crisis at all since he resigned specifically because he was happy with the outcome. Content is mostly duplicated in more detail without the synthesis at Aftermath of the United Kingdom European Union membership referendum, 2016. There are sources that use the phrase "British political crisis" as a pithy description in a headline, but few if any that treat it as a proper noun in main text. A merge is inappropriate, since a) all the content is already in Aftermath of the United Kingdom European Union membership referendum, 2016, and b) what's left is SYNTH and OR. Article was previously put under proposed deletion (not by me), but was untagged, so I'm bringing it here. Smurrayinchester 07:55, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- Delete - this is already covered by Aftermath of the United Kingdom European Union membership referendum, 2016, without the synthesis problem. Cordless Larry ( talk) 07:59, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- Delete the article noted in the nom and by Larry is superior in every respect and covers the referenced material in this spinoff. The Rambling Man ( talk) 08:37, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- Keep/merge The nomination contradicts itself in that it says that these events don't belong together but that they are all to be found in the other article which it prefers. There are certainly plenty of sources which cover these matters together; here's a selection:
- Post-Brexit, the U.K. is in its worst political crisis since 1940
- Is anyone in charge? UK politics in meltdown after Brexit
- Inside the Week That Broke British Politics
- The British House of Cards
- UK Spirals into Political Crisis after EU Vote
- Britain in political crisis not seen for 200 to 300 years
- What sort of crisis is this?
- UK plunges deeper into political crisis
- A tempest tears through British politics
- The page in question has a bland and general title which seems to cover the broad topic reasonably well. It gets over a hundred hits each day currently and so is certainly plausible as a title or redirect. Our
editing policy is to retain such material, rather than deleting it. As these issues are still quite current and unresolved, we should keep an open mind rather than rushing to judgement and insisting that it's all about Brexit and not other tensions in the old order.
Andrew D. (
talk)
10:38, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- There's no contradiction - the events all had the same cause, but are not part of a common "crisis". Farage resigning has no relation to the leadership challenge on Corbyn. Smurrayinchester 13:54, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and TRM. Blythwood ( talk) 11:29, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- Comment I PRODed the article per "This appears to be a largely factually accurate account of somewhat related major political events but their portrayal as one recognised phenomenon and characterisation as a crisis seems to be unsupported, novel and POV." and the discussion on the talk page. Per this and the deletion noms above I see no reason to keep the article but may be persuaded to support Andrew's initial course of action, a redirect to the "Aftermath" article if persuaded that, to my surprise, the rather novel looking title was in fact a search term likely to be employed. The traffic appears to be in the twenties rather than hundreds though, with a higher blip yesterday because of our collective scrutiny presumably. Not sure if that's sufficient to make it worth converting to a redirect and retaining. Mutt Lunker ( talk) 12:36, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- ...apologies, the accursed browser I'm using seems to be playing up - I am now similarly getting indications of hits around the hundred mark. Mutt Lunker ( talk) 12:43, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- After reflection and almost entirely due to the (surprising) level of hits, I'm plumping for a redirect/merge. Would not be distressed if it were deleted though. Mutt Lunker ( talk) 13:36, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- Merge with Aftermath of the United Kingdom European Union membership referendum, 2016. The sources describing it as a "crisis" all seem to stem from the few days immediately after the referendum, when the "crisis", such as it may have appeared to be, were in fact part of the chaotic "aftermath". So, it is reasonable that the term "British political crisis" be retained as a redirect but that the substantive content and sources be merged into the (much better and more comprehensive) "aftermath" article. There is no case for retaining this as a separate article - if not merged, little would be lost if it were deleted. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 16:25, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as per nomination -- Liam McM ( T) 13:39, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Sandstein 11:15, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
- British political crisis, 2016 ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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The article is a synthesis of events that are largely unrelated - although they were all precipitated by Brexit, the internal strife within Labour is nothing to do with the resignation of Cameron, and Farage's resignation isn't a crisis at all since he resigned specifically because he was happy with the outcome. Content is mostly duplicated in more detail without the synthesis at Aftermath of the United Kingdom European Union membership referendum, 2016. There are sources that use the phrase "British political crisis" as a pithy description in a headline, but few if any that treat it as a proper noun in main text. A merge is inappropriate, since a) all the content is already in Aftermath of the United Kingdom European Union membership referendum, 2016, and b) what's left is SYNTH and OR. Article was previously put under proposed deletion (not by me), but was untagged, so I'm bringing it here. Smurrayinchester 07:55, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- Delete - this is already covered by Aftermath of the United Kingdom European Union membership referendum, 2016, without the synthesis problem. Cordless Larry ( talk) 07:59, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- Delete the article noted in the nom and by Larry is superior in every respect and covers the referenced material in this spinoff. The Rambling Man ( talk) 08:37, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- Keep/merge The nomination contradicts itself in that it says that these events don't belong together but that they are all to be found in the other article which it prefers. There are certainly plenty of sources which cover these matters together; here's a selection:
- Post-Brexit, the U.K. is in its worst political crisis since 1940
- Is anyone in charge? UK politics in meltdown after Brexit
- Inside the Week That Broke British Politics
- The British House of Cards
- UK Spirals into Political Crisis after EU Vote
- Britain in political crisis not seen for 200 to 300 years
- What sort of crisis is this?
- UK plunges deeper into political crisis
- A tempest tears through British politics
- The page in question has a bland and general title which seems to cover the broad topic reasonably well. It gets over a hundred hits each day currently and so is certainly plausible as a title or redirect. Our
editing policy is to retain such material, rather than deleting it. As these issues are still quite current and unresolved, we should keep an open mind rather than rushing to judgement and insisting that it's all about Brexit and not other tensions in the old order.
Andrew D. (
talk)
10:38, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- There's no contradiction - the events all had the same cause, but are not part of a common "crisis". Farage resigning has no relation to the leadership challenge on Corbyn. Smurrayinchester 13:54, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and TRM. Blythwood ( talk) 11:29, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- Comment I PRODed the article per "This appears to be a largely factually accurate account of somewhat related major political events but their portrayal as one recognised phenomenon and characterisation as a crisis seems to be unsupported, novel and POV." and the discussion on the talk page. Per this and the deletion noms above I see no reason to keep the article but may be persuaded to support Andrew's initial course of action, a redirect to the "Aftermath" article if persuaded that, to my surprise, the rather novel looking title was in fact a search term likely to be employed. The traffic appears to be in the twenties rather than hundreds though, with a higher blip yesterday because of our collective scrutiny presumably. Not sure if that's sufficient to make it worth converting to a redirect and retaining. Mutt Lunker ( talk) 12:36, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- ...apologies, the accursed browser I'm using seems to be playing up - I am now similarly getting indications of hits around the hundred mark. Mutt Lunker ( talk) 12:43, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- After reflection and almost entirely due to the (surprising) level of hits, I'm plumping for a redirect/merge. Would not be distressed if it were deleted though. Mutt Lunker ( talk) 13:36, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- Merge with Aftermath of the United Kingdom European Union membership referendum, 2016. The sources describing it as a "crisis" all seem to stem from the few days immediately after the referendum, when the "crisis", such as it may have appeared to be, were in fact part of the chaotic "aftermath". So, it is reasonable that the term "British political crisis" be retained as a redirect but that the substantive content and sources be merged into the (much better and more comprehensive) "aftermath" article. There is no case for retaining this as a separate article - if not merged, little would be lost if it were deleted. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 16:25, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as per nomination -- Liam McM ( T) 13:39, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 03:07, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 03:07, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
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