The result was no consensus. BJ Talk 03:30, 8 October 2008 (UTC) reply
No sourcing, and I have doubts about the notability of this. rootology ( C)( T) 00:32, 3 October 2008 (UTC) reply
I think there are probably about 50 more books in English dealing with S&M, and every one of them will discuss this. GB is very incomplete in this genre. It's also very incomplete for fiction, though there are about 8 or 10 more on the page. Probably many more using variants of the term. This is part of the general culture and used freely as such; it's part of the generally accepted defining costume for characters in certain situations. some more academic works on the fiction
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The result was no consensus. BJ Talk 03:30, 8 October 2008 (UTC) reply
No sourcing, and I have doubts about the notability of this. rootology ( C)( T) 00:32, 3 October 2008 (UTC) reply
I think there are probably about 50 more books in English dealing with S&M, and every one of them will discuss this. GB is very incomplete in this genre. It's also very incomplete for fiction, though there are about 8 or 10 more on the page. Probably many more using variants of the term. This is part of the general culture and used freely as such; it's part of the generally accepted defining costume for characters in certain situations. some more academic works on the fiction
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