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The result was delete. I'm persuaded by those editors advocating Deletion that the sources providing SIGCOV just aren't there. Liz Read! Talk! 06:30, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
Bob Papenbrook
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I believe that this person does not meet WP:A7, but my speedy deletion tag was contested. Minor voice acting roles do not meet WP:ENT. signed, SpringProof talk 20:05, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers and Anime and manga. signed, SpringProof talk 20:05, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television, Video games, and California. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 20:17, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep; I usually don't like to vote keep off of an SNG but I think there is a very strong case this person meets WP:NACTOR with their significant roles in Power Rangers, Heat Guy J, Last Exile, Mezzo Forte, The Happy Cricket, Tenchi in Tokyo, and more. Link20XX ( talk) 23:03, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Despite being in a lot of productions under several names, there's basically no reliable sources to establish notability. Esw01407 ( talk) 02:09, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per the claims of @
Link20XX:. His son
Bryce Papenbrook also has a page on this website. --
Rtkat3 (
talk)
15:34, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - I would argue that a page for a notable son isn't a reason for a page about a less-notable father. Bryce Papenbrook isn't at issue here whatsoever. Also, I don't think I'd consider a lot of his roles significant? For example, his Power Rangers character was only a major plot of the story for only a handful of episodes. signed, SpringProof talk 03:55, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 19:17, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - Needs some reliable secondary coverage apart from an obituary and a database entry. --
Mika1h (
talk)
22:41, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - I added as much obituary references as I could find. -- Rtkat3 ( talk) 14:36, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- This person probably meets
WP:NACTOR as I noted above, which is enough for them to qualify for an article.
Link20XX (
talk)
15:33, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Well, that's your reading of the guideline. I think there should be at least some significant coverage about the subject, it can't be just a list sourced by a database. -- Mika1h ( talk) 16:17, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Delete per
WP:NOTDIR /
WP:NOTDATA. I'm a little surprised there isn't more coverage about this actor, given the notability of the works he's appeared. But I'm seeing a lot of small parts and uncredited work. I care about crediting artists, but we can't do that if there are no reliable secondary sources that have decided to cover it. This is an encyclopedia based on what reliable sources have said about a topic, not a copy-and-paste of a movie database.
Shooterwalker (
talk)
11:50, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - I'm surprised too. Every other editor should've found more coverage by now including other obituaries like the ones that an editor claimed wasn't good enough. The only other known source is the interview with his son Bryce. -- Rtkat3 ( talk) 15:42, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Fails WP:NACTOR, or any form of notability as determined by Wikipedia sourcing policies and guidelines. The only sourcing is through data bases and the "External links" sections. -- Otr500 ( talk) 11:48, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- This article joins many others, an absolute sourcing nightmare. Names of living people abound and many times not sourced. Not finding anything substantial I went through some links:
- Heat Guy J J, ( Heat Guy J#Special Services)- leads to large amounts of unsourced material with two links, "Voiced by: Takayuki Sugō (Japanese); Bob Papenbrook (English): Lots of unsourced content that circles back here. That article has one source Funimation Adds Heat Guy J from Esca's Kazuki Akane (Updated) with no mention of the subject.
- Maetel Legend that boldly has no sources "except" through the "External links" section. There is no mention in the article "Cast" section of the subject.
- Brigadoon: Marin & Melan: "Tenement house" subsection, Tadashi Tokita (unsourced), subject links back to this article.
- I went through several with the same results. -- Otr500 ( talk) 11:56, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was delete. I'm persuaded by those editors advocating Deletion that the sources providing SIGCOV just aren't there. Liz Read! Talk! 06:30, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
Bob Papenbrook
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I believe that this person does not meet WP:A7, but my speedy deletion tag was contested. Minor voice acting roles do not meet WP:ENT. signed, SpringProof talk 20:05, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers and Anime and manga. signed, SpringProof talk 20:05, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television, Video games, and California. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 20:17, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep; I usually don't like to vote keep off of an SNG but I think there is a very strong case this person meets WP:NACTOR with their significant roles in Power Rangers, Heat Guy J, Last Exile, Mezzo Forte, The Happy Cricket, Tenchi in Tokyo, and more. Link20XX ( talk) 23:03, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Despite being in a lot of productions under several names, there's basically no reliable sources to establish notability. Esw01407 ( talk) 02:09, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per the claims of @
Link20XX:. His son
Bryce Papenbrook also has a page on this website. --
Rtkat3 (
talk)
15:34, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - I would argue that a page for a notable son isn't a reason for a page about a less-notable father. Bryce Papenbrook isn't at issue here whatsoever. Also, I don't think I'd consider a lot of his roles significant? For example, his Power Rangers character was only a major plot of the story for only a handful of episodes. signed, SpringProof talk 03:55, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 19:17, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - Needs some reliable secondary coverage apart from an obituary and a database entry. --
Mika1h (
talk)
22:41, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - I added as much obituary references as I could find. -- Rtkat3 ( talk) 14:36, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- This person probably meets
WP:NACTOR as I noted above, which is enough for them to qualify for an article.
Link20XX (
talk)
15:33, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Well, that's your reading of the guideline. I think there should be at least some significant coverage about the subject, it can't be just a list sourced by a database. -- Mika1h ( talk) 16:17, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Delete per
WP:NOTDIR /
WP:NOTDATA. I'm a little surprised there isn't more coverage about this actor, given the notability of the works he's appeared. But I'm seeing a lot of small parts and uncredited work. I care about crediting artists, but we can't do that if there are no reliable secondary sources that have decided to cover it. This is an encyclopedia based on what reliable sources have said about a topic, not a copy-and-paste of a movie database.
Shooterwalker (
talk)
11:50, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - I'm surprised too. Every other editor should've found more coverage by now including other obituaries like the ones that an editor claimed wasn't good enough. The only other known source is the interview with his son Bryce. -- Rtkat3 ( talk) 15:42, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Fails WP:NACTOR, or any form of notability as determined by Wikipedia sourcing policies and guidelines. The only sourcing is through data bases and the "External links" sections. -- Otr500 ( talk) 11:48, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- This article joins many others, an absolute sourcing nightmare. Names of living people abound and many times not sourced. Not finding anything substantial I went through some links:
- Heat Guy J J, ( Heat Guy J#Special Services)- leads to large amounts of unsourced material with two links, "Voiced by: Takayuki Sugō (Japanese); Bob Papenbrook (English): Lots of unsourced content that circles back here. That article has one source Funimation Adds Heat Guy J from Esca's Kazuki Akane (Updated) with no mention of the subject.
- Maetel Legend that boldly has no sources "except" through the "External links" section. There is no mention in the article "Cast" section of the subject.
- Brigadoon: Marin & Melan: "Tenement house" subsection, Tadashi Tokita (unsourced), subject links back to this article.
- I went through several with the same results. -- Otr500 ( talk) 11:56, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.