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Keep. The topic meets GNG (do I really need to list sources?), and I don't see anything in the nom that questions it. Deletion is not cleanup.
JBchrchtalk19:42, 26 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete We don't need a page for X currency in Y country. This article seems like it could be a couple of sentences in the El Salvador article. Maybe someone could spend time discussing the rich history of all of the currencies used in the country - most have been the subject of actual scholarly sources and not just recent news articles. — Preceding
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2600:1700:12B0:3000:85A4:3E9A:69B1:D576 (
talk)
01:00, 27 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. Wikipedia has
guidelines which set forth the criteria according to which we decide whether articles should be kept or deleted. The most important guideline in this area is
Wikipedia:Notability § General notability guideline. This guideline states that "A topic is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list when it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". As you can see, the general notability guideline does not give editors the discretion to decide whether an article on a given topic is "needed" or "not needed": if an topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources, then it is generally suitable for an article, regardless of what editors think about it. The deletion process is about discussing whether a topic has indeed received "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". I hope this clarifies what this discussion is about and which arguments are suitable in this context. Thank you and happy editing.
JBchrchtalk02:08, 27 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Keep Between El Salvador making bitcoin legal tender and the IMF telling El Salvador to not do that at the risk of destabilizing their economy, there very much seems to be enough to write an article that passes
WP:GNG. This article will be notable after Bitcoin stops being legal tender in El Salvador, if that happens.
TartarTorte03:31, 27 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Keep and clean up. For better or worse, Bitcoin is being adopted as legal tender in El Salvador and the country's president is trying to tie the country's economy to it. Both the government's promotion of Bitcoin - and the protests against it - have gotten a lot of coverage. It's also unlikely that these developments won't continue to impact El Salvador and receive news coverage in the future. It does seem to be very pro-Bitcoin right now, but fixing that is not a job for deletion.
BuySomeApples (
talk)
05:51, 27 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment I've started improving the article and adding more sources. It's already in much better shape than it had been at the time this article was nominated for deletion. With a little more expansion, it could even be eligible for DYK.
BuySomeApples (
talk)
07:59, 27 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Keep, passes GNG but takes potentially problematic form. I think this content would be better presented as an article on a specific event, named perhaps 2021 adoption of Bitcoin by El Salvador, which avoids the potentially INDISCRIMINATE nature of a 'currency X in nation Y' article. This issue is solvable using regular editing and does not justify deletion. —
Charles Stewart(talk)16:10, 27 January 2022 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Keep. The topic meets GNG (do I really need to list sources?), and I don't see anything in the nom that questions it. Deletion is not cleanup.
JBchrchtalk19:42, 26 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete We don't need a page for X currency in Y country. This article seems like it could be a couple of sentences in the El Salvador article. Maybe someone could spend time discussing the rich history of all of the currencies used in the country - most have been the subject of actual scholarly sources and not just recent news articles. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
2600:1700:12B0:3000:85A4:3E9A:69B1:D576 (
talk)
01:00, 27 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. Wikipedia has
guidelines which set forth the criteria according to which we decide whether articles should be kept or deleted. The most important guideline in this area is
Wikipedia:Notability § General notability guideline. This guideline states that "A topic is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list when it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". As you can see, the general notability guideline does not give editors the discretion to decide whether an article on a given topic is "needed" or "not needed": if an topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources, then it is generally suitable for an article, regardless of what editors think about it. The deletion process is about discussing whether a topic has indeed received "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". I hope this clarifies what this discussion is about and which arguments are suitable in this context. Thank you and happy editing.
JBchrchtalk02:08, 27 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Keep Between El Salvador making bitcoin legal tender and the IMF telling El Salvador to not do that at the risk of destabilizing their economy, there very much seems to be enough to write an article that passes
WP:GNG. This article will be notable after Bitcoin stops being legal tender in El Salvador, if that happens.
TartarTorte03:31, 27 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Keep and clean up. For better or worse, Bitcoin is being adopted as legal tender in El Salvador and the country's president is trying to tie the country's economy to it. Both the government's promotion of Bitcoin - and the protests against it - have gotten a lot of coverage. It's also unlikely that these developments won't continue to impact El Salvador and receive news coverage in the future. It does seem to be very pro-Bitcoin right now, but fixing that is not a job for deletion.
BuySomeApples (
talk)
05:51, 27 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment I've started improving the article and adding more sources. It's already in much better shape than it had been at the time this article was nominated for deletion. With a little more expansion, it could even be eligible for DYK.
BuySomeApples (
talk)
07:59, 27 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Keep, passes GNG but takes potentially problematic form. I think this content would be better presented as an article on a specific event, named perhaps 2021 adoption of Bitcoin by El Salvador, which avoids the potentially INDISCRIMINATE nature of a 'currency X in nation Y' article. This issue is solvable using regular editing and does not justify deletion. —
Charles Stewart(talk)16:10, 27 January 2022 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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