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Fails
WP:GNG. Searches into Google, Yahoo! and Bing yield nothing substantial, only fan-based/user-generated websites. No mentions of reviews from reliable reporters or awards etc. In, addition, this manga does not have its own page on the Japanese Wikipedia.
KirtZJ (
talk) 10:19, 25 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Question: - Did you search the Japanese title? I also think it may be good to make an inquiry at the Japanese Wikipedia about this topic.
WhisperToMe (
talk) 12:10, 25 March 2015 (UTC)reply
There is no need to make an inquiry there. If it was notable, we wouldn't have trouble finding significant coverage. Show me how this is notable. A manga does not get an article simply because it exists. If anything, it gets mentioned in a parent article.
—KirtZMessage 12:42, 25 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Google searches imply a search was done in non-English as well...
—KirtZMessage 14:26, 25 March 2015 (UTC)reply
If one doesn't have any knowledge of Japanese (or Chinese, Korean, Arabic, etc.) it may be difficult to make heads or tails of any of the results one gets. It's necessary to ask people who have knowledge of the language, as they can determine what the sources say, and whether the sources are reliable.
WhisperToMe (
talk) 15:05, 25 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Came here in response to WhisperToMe's inquiry at
ja:Wikipedia:Help for Non-Japanese Speakers. National Diet Library's Search engine with the option to cross-search within all the cooperating database services turned on returned the manga itself and the NDL itself's index. Neither of
CiNii Books' content search nor its Article full-text search returned results. Searching within established news sites using news.google.co.jp (with language set to Japanese) did not return relevant hits. A query on books.google.co.jp returned 6 results, but out of them, four was the author's own work. One predated the date this manga was published and is likely a false positive. Another hit (Manga Science) happens to be a manga I'm personally fond of, but that is an educational manga on science and I am sure that the hit was a false positive. In conclusion, I could not find even a passing mention of the manga in any reliable sources, let alone anything that will let me believe that this manga would be notable for inclusion in Wikipedia unless someone can provide a pointer to a reference that proves otherwise. --
朝彦 | Asahiko (
talk) 18:29, 25 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Thanks for the analysis! It's disappointing but it's good that this was done. If no further sources are found by the end of this AFD, merge into
Pokémon (manga)WhisperToMe (
talk) 19:02, 25 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Keep-Notable enough.
Wgolf (
talk) 01:59, 26 March 2015 (UTC)reply
based on the above extensively researched information, you really need to provide an explanation.
SephyTheThird (
talk) 20:20, 27 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Delete No sources have been found to establish notability here. -
Knowledgekid87 (
talk) 21:30, 28 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Merge/Delete Extensive research above suggests lack of notability.
SephyTheThird (
talk) 21:47, 28 March 2015 (UTC)reply
What sourced reliable information is there to merge though? All I see is
WP:OR here. -
Knowledgekid87 (
talk) 23:24, 29 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —
Coffee //
have a cup //
beans // 11:12, 2 April 2015 (UTC)reply
delete only forty Ghits on this title, and a bunch of them seem to be for a completely different self-published book. It's hard for me to see having an article with a an English language title when there's no real trace of the thing under that title.
Mangoe (
talk) 13:20, 2 April 2015 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Fails
WP:GNG. Searches into Google, Yahoo! and Bing yield nothing substantial, only fan-based/user-generated websites. No mentions of reviews from reliable reporters or awards etc. In, addition, this manga does not have its own page on the Japanese Wikipedia.
KirtZJ (
talk) 10:19, 25 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Question: - Did you search the Japanese title? I also think it may be good to make an inquiry at the Japanese Wikipedia about this topic.
WhisperToMe (
talk) 12:10, 25 March 2015 (UTC)reply
There is no need to make an inquiry there. If it was notable, we wouldn't have trouble finding significant coverage. Show me how this is notable. A manga does not get an article simply because it exists. If anything, it gets mentioned in a parent article.
—KirtZMessage 12:42, 25 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Google searches imply a search was done in non-English as well...
—KirtZMessage 14:26, 25 March 2015 (UTC)reply
If one doesn't have any knowledge of Japanese (or Chinese, Korean, Arabic, etc.) it may be difficult to make heads or tails of any of the results one gets. It's necessary to ask people who have knowledge of the language, as they can determine what the sources say, and whether the sources are reliable.
WhisperToMe (
talk) 15:05, 25 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Came here in response to WhisperToMe's inquiry at
ja:Wikipedia:Help for Non-Japanese Speakers. National Diet Library's Search engine with the option to cross-search within all the cooperating database services turned on returned the manga itself and the NDL itself's index. Neither of
CiNii Books' content search nor its Article full-text search returned results. Searching within established news sites using news.google.co.jp (with language set to Japanese) did not return relevant hits. A query on books.google.co.jp returned 6 results, but out of them, four was the author's own work. One predated the date this manga was published and is likely a false positive. Another hit (Manga Science) happens to be a manga I'm personally fond of, but that is an educational manga on science and I am sure that the hit was a false positive. In conclusion, I could not find even a passing mention of the manga in any reliable sources, let alone anything that will let me believe that this manga would be notable for inclusion in Wikipedia unless someone can provide a pointer to a reference that proves otherwise. --
朝彦 | Asahiko (
talk) 18:29, 25 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Thanks for the analysis! It's disappointing but it's good that this was done. If no further sources are found by the end of this AFD, merge into
Pokémon (manga)WhisperToMe (
talk) 19:02, 25 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Keep-Notable enough.
Wgolf (
talk) 01:59, 26 March 2015 (UTC)reply
based on the above extensively researched information, you really need to provide an explanation.
SephyTheThird (
talk) 20:20, 27 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Delete No sources have been found to establish notability here. -
Knowledgekid87 (
talk) 21:30, 28 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Merge/Delete Extensive research above suggests lack of notability.
SephyTheThird (
talk) 21:47, 28 March 2015 (UTC)reply
What sourced reliable information is there to merge though? All I see is
WP:OR here. -
Knowledgekid87 (
talk) 23:24, 29 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —
Coffee //
have a cup //
beans // 11:12, 2 April 2015 (UTC)reply
delete only forty Ghits on this title, and a bunch of them seem to be for a completely different self-published book. It's hard for me to see having an article with a an English language title when there's no real trace of the thing under that title.
Mangoe (
talk) 13:20, 2 April 2015 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.