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Comment:
WP:ATD is a redirect to
Northern Ukraine campaign. Alternatively, the article can be converted to the "Vasylkiv during the Russian invasion of Ukraine" (courtesy ping to proposer
Mr.User200), with a broader scope. Initial reports of a large-scale battle here do not seem to have manifested, and are likely a result of the fog-of-war.
Curbon7 (
talk) 03:28, 21 December 2023 (UTC)reply
I would agree that anything of value could be merged into
Northern Ukraine campaign, though it already has a section
Ukrainian victory at Vasylkiv and the content there probably requires review. A search of news
here reterns only one hit for "Battle of Vasylkiv" (search in quotes) that is not Wiki or a Wiki mirror. This is not a "named" battle. The reports that do exist look more like smoke and mirrors and/or largely inflated.
Cinderella157 (
talk) 04:11, 21 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Move to
Vasylkiv attacks or
Vasylkiv during the Russian invasion of Ukraine. There are sources giving sigcov to events in Vasylkiv during the initial invasion (like the Guardian and NYT articles), including the reports of Russian landing attempts, so
WP:GNG is satisfied. There were definitely missile attacks. There may have been incursions by sabotage groups. There may or may not have been an abortive Russian plan to seize the airbase. There probably were not cargo planes full of Russian troops shot down, but that this was reported is an event of the war. (The rooster should be mentioned.) —MichaelZ. 16:23, 21 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Merge to
Northern Ukraine campaign -- Like other wars, not every action is independently notable. Sources here are
WP:PRIMARYNEWS (and, no, lots and lots of news mentions in the weeks around the battle do not eliminated the need for secondary sources that analyse the longer-term
WP:EFFECT required by
WP:NEVENT), and there is lack of
WP:PERSISTENCE and
WP:DEPTH. There is no policy basis for this to be standalone article. Note to closer: If merge is not the consensus, please consider these as arguments for deletion. Cheers,
Last1in (
talk) 14:47, 22 December 2023 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Comment:
WP:ATD is a redirect to
Northern Ukraine campaign. Alternatively, the article can be converted to the "Vasylkiv during the Russian invasion of Ukraine" (courtesy ping to proposer
Mr.User200), with a broader scope. Initial reports of a large-scale battle here do not seem to have manifested, and are likely a result of the fog-of-war.
Curbon7 (
talk) 03:28, 21 December 2023 (UTC)reply
I would agree that anything of value could be merged into
Northern Ukraine campaign, though it already has a section
Ukrainian victory at Vasylkiv and the content there probably requires review. A search of news
here reterns only one hit for "Battle of Vasylkiv" (search in quotes) that is not Wiki or a Wiki mirror. This is not a "named" battle. The reports that do exist look more like smoke and mirrors and/or largely inflated.
Cinderella157 (
talk) 04:11, 21 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Move to
Vasylkiv attacks or
Vasylkiv during the Russian invasion of Ukraine. There are sources giving sigcov to events in Vasylkiv during the initial invasion (like the Guardian and NYT articles), including the reports of Russian landing attempts, so
WP:GNG is satisfied. There were definitely missile attacks. There may have been incursions by sabotage groups. There may or may not have been an abortive Russian plan to seize the airbase. There probably were not cargo planes full of Russian troops shot down, but that this was reported is an event of the war. (The rooster should be mentioned.) —MichaelZ. 16:23, 21 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Merge to
Northern Ukraine campaign -- Like other wars, not every action is independently notable. Sources here are
WP:PRIMARYNEWS (and, no, lots and lots of news mentions in the weeks around the battle do not eliminated the need for secondary sources that analyse the longer-term
WP:EFFECT required by
WP:NEVENT), and there is lack of
WP:PERSISTENCE and
WP:DEPTH. There is no policy basis for this to be standalone article. Note to closer: If merge is not the consensus, please consider these as arguments for deletion. Cheers,
Last1in (
talk) 14:47, 22 December 2023 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
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