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The result was delete. BD2412 T 01:10, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
Bancroft, California
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Bancroft was a station of the Sacramento Northern Railroad. Built on the property of a wealthy local rancher. Used primarily for loading farm goods. Never was a community and no other notability. [1] Glendoremus ( talk) 16:29, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. ProcrastinatingReader ( talk) 18:14, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
- Comment: What about the sources on the page? Like
[2], a government website, which lists it as a "Populated (Community) Place" (ie "Place or area with clustered or scattered buildings and a permanent human population (city, settlement, town, village). A populated place is usually not incorporated and by definition has no legal boundaries. However, a populated place may have a corresponding "civil" record, the legal boundaries of which may or may not coincide with the perceived populated place. Distinct from Census and Civil classes."), and
[3].
ProcrastinatingReader (
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18:18, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
- GNIS has a terrible track record for accuracy. There are literally hundreds of cases where a remote railroad siding or rail depot has been called a populated place in the GNIS. I should have noted that Durham's "Place Names of the San Francisco Bay Area" call Bancroft a "locality" as distinct from a town or other community. Glendoremus ( talk) 20:01, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
- Please see WP:GNIS and my favorite, the supposedly "populated place" of Susie that was really an industrial railroad spur. The GNIS is worthless when it comes to establishing that a place name is not only an actual community, but a notable one. Reywas92 Talk 23:49, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
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- delete For some reason there is a longer than usual history of topo maps for this, and they show nothing here until the 1930s. Later ones show a long warehouse-like building alongside the tracks, which aerials show as well, sitting in the midst of an array of orchards, and that is all that there ever was of Bancroft. More recently, the rail line was expanded and elevated, a canal was run through where the building once stood, and suburban sprawl has wiped away any traces of the orchards. GNIS simply copied the name off the topos, but as was said above, the track record for interpreting those names is not good enough for it to be used as a sole authority. Mangoe ( talk) 15:23, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
- Speedy delete' More mass-produced junk, a site now in the city of Walnut Creek, California. Reywas92 Talk 23:49, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Does not pass WP:GEOLAND. Lightburst ( talk) 15:08, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Mass-produced without verification and fails WP:GEOLAND. – dlthewave ☎ 02:07, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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The result was delete. BD2412 T 01:10, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
Bancroft, California
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Bancroft was a station of the Sacramento Northern Railroad. Built on the property of a wealthy local rancher. Used primarily for loading farm goods. Never was a community and no other notability. [1] Glendoremus ( talk) 16:29, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. ProcrastinatingReader ( talk) 18:14, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
- Comment: What about the sources on the page? Like
[2], a government website, which lists it as a "Populated (Community) Place" (ie "Place or area with clustered or scattered buildings and a permanent human population (city, settlement, town, village). A populated place is usually not incorporated and by definition has no legal boundaries. However, a populated place may have a corresponding "civil" record, the legal boundaries of which may or may not coincide with the perceived populated place. Distinct from Census and Civil classes."), and
[3].
ProcrastinatingReader (
talk)
18:18, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
- GNIS has a terrible track record for accuracy. There are literally hundreds of cases where a remote railroad siding or rail depot has been called a populated place in the GNIS. I should have noted that Durham's "Place Names of the San Francisco Bay Area" call Bancroft a "locality" as distinct from a town or other community. Glendoremus ( talk) 20:01, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
- Please see WP:GNIS and my favorite, the supposedly "populated place" of Susie that was really an industrial railroad spur. The GNIS is worthless when it comes to establishing that a place name is not only an actual community, but a notable one. Reywas92 Talk 23:49, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 22:55, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
- delete For some reason there is a longer than usual history of topo maps for this, and they show nothing here until the 1930s. Later ones show a long warehouse-like building alongside the tracks, which aerials show as well, sitting in the midst of an array of orchards, and that is all that there ever was of Bancroft. More recently, the rail line was expanded and elevated, a canal was run through where the building once stood, and suburban sprawl has wiped away any traces of the orchards. GNIS simply copied the name off the topos, but as was said above, the track record for interpreting those names is not good enough for it to be used as a sole authority. Mangoe ( talk) 15:23, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
- Speedy delete' More mass-produced junk, a site now in the city of Walnut Creek, California. Reywas92 Talk 23:49, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Does not pass WP:GEOLAND. Lightburst ( talk) 15:08, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Mass-produced without verification and fails WP:GEOLAND. – dlthewave ☎ 02:07, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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