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The result was redirect to Ava railway station. Daniel ( talk) 10:25, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
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Proposed deletion from lack of notability and unreliable information. This is, to the best of my research, not a suburb as defined by Hutt City Council. The area referred to as Ava appears to either be in Petone or in Alicetown, or perhaps split between those two suburbs. It is unclear why this area would be notable enough for a separate article; the article's only source is a partly-broken archive of one document in which I couldn't find any mention of Ava. HenryCrun15 ( talk) 00:21, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
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- Comment FWIW, it has an entry by LINZ as a "place" and that entry gives some context. Schwede 66 19:05, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
- It's a suburb/neighbourhood and even has its own train station. Probably doesn't rise to GEOLAND, probably suitable for an article if better sourced, currently fails GNG; I can't find anything quickly that suggests that it does pass GNG, but at worst this should redirect to the Lower Hutt area or perhaps the station article, so not bolding any particular "vote." SportingFlyer T· C 20:10, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete It's not really the name of a suburb or area, it's just the name of the railway station, which was named after the nearby Ava Street in 1927. I grew up in the Hutt Valley and I've never heard anyone say they live in Ava. The LINZ article sort of confirms this, describing the name as "unofficial". Finally, on the Papers Past website, a search for newspaper articles mentioning "Ava" alongside "Petone" yields hits only in the context of the railway station or the street name. Given the lack of content, and the fact that the railway station has its own fairly substantive article, I think it's safe to delete. MaxBrowne2 ( talk) 11:07, 6 December 2021 (UTC) Edit I checked out the postcode finder at the NZ Post website, trying various addresses near the railway station as given on google maps. Addresses south of the railway station (Plunket Ave, Ava St, William St, North St etc) are described as "Petone, Lower Hutt" and given postcode 5012. Addresses north of the station (Wakefield St etc) are described as "Alicetown, Lower Hutt" and given the postcode 5010. This doesn't mean Ava has never been considered a suburb, but it does mean NZ Post doesn't recognize it as one. MaxBrowne2 ( talk) 23:19, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Ava railway station as a valid WP:ATD. Clearly the only location this could refer to and as a plausible (due to possible historical usage, and possibly for those who might not know this is just a railway station and not much else) if somewhat unlikely search term. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 04:19, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Ava railway station. Daniel ( talk) 10:25, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
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Proposed deletion from lack of notability and unreliable information. This is, to the best of my research, not a suburb as defined by Hutt City Council. The area referred to as Ava appears to either be in Petone or in Alicetown, or perhaps split between those two suburbs. It is unclear why this area would be notable enough for a separate article; the article's only source is a partly-broken archive of one document in which I couldn't find any mention of Ava. HenryCrun15 ( talk) 00:21, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 00:24, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
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- Comment FWIW, it has an entry by LINZ as a "place" and that entry gives some context. Schwede 66 19:05, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
- It's a suburb/neighbourhood and even has its own train station. Probably doesn't rise to GEOLAND, probably suitable for an article if better sourced, currently fails GNG; I can't find anything quickly that suggests that it does pass GNG, but at worst this should redirect to the Lower Hutt area or perhaps the station article, so not bolding any particular "vote." SportingFlyer T· C 20:10, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete It's not really the name of a suburb or area, it's just the name of the railway station, which was named after the nearby Ava Street in 1927. I grew up in the Hutt Valley and I've never heard anyone say they live in Ava. The LINZ article sort of confirms this, describing the name as "unofficial". Finally, on the Papers Past website, a search for newspaper articles mentioning "Ava" alongside "Petone" yields hits only in the context of the railway station or the street name. Given the lack of content, and the fact that the railway station has its own fairly substantive article, I think it's safe to delete. MaxBrowne2 ( talk) 11:07, 6 December 2021 (UTC) Edit I checked out the postcode finder at the NZ Post website, trying various addresses near the railway station as given on google maps. Addresses south of the railway station (Plunket Ave, Ava St, William St, North St etc) are described as "Petone, Lower Hutt" and given postcode 5012. Addresses north of the station (Wakefield St etc) are described as "Alicetown, Lower Hutt" and given the postcode 5010. This doesn't mean Ava has never been considered a suburb, but it does mean NZ Post doesn't recognize it as one. MaxBrowne2 ( talk) 23:19, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Ava railway station as a valid WP:ATD. Clearly the only location this could refer to and as a plausible (due to possible historical usage, and possibly for those who might not know this is just a railway station and not much else) if somewhat unlikely search term. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 04:19, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
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