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Does not meet
WP:GNG. Lack of in-depth independent coverage. The sources are all articles written by him, or are completely or primarily interviews, or very minor mentions.
MB05:34, 8 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment: The coverage in Time Out
[1], BK Magazine
[2], Thailand Insider
[3], Splendid Table
[4] and CNN
[5] are primarily about him or his views on northern Thai cuisine, but they're all interviews. All of them do include introductory material in the writer's voice, but they're not exactly in-depth. There's a lot of mention of his book, but not much in terms of reviews by established publications. The New York Times' recommendation
[6] isn't a dedicated review, so it probably doesn't count towards
WP:AUTHOR. Thai-language sources are mostly about his exhibitions.
[7][8][9] --
Paul_012 (
talk)
10:46, 12 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Weak keep: The author's views and works have received substantial coverage in prominent secondary sources. But I also conceded that most of them are completely or primarily interviews.--
IndyNotes (
talk)
17:29, 23 August 2022 (UTC)reply
There is no policy or guideline that says that. The best we have is an essay
WP:INTERVIEW and it has a section for Notability
Wikipedia:Interviews#Notability which says "if the material the interviewer brought to the table is secondary and independent, [it] contributes to the claim that the subject has met the requirements laid out in the general notability guideline." One has to look at the type of interview and gauge it. For example
Time Out is "merely quoting" blocks of text with little added by the journalist. Same with BK Magazine and Thailand Insider. Splendid Table and CNN are less clear as the journalist is more involved making commentary or responding to what the person said. The other thing is the essay says "A multitude of interviews with a breadth of styles shows a wide range of attention being given to the subject and can be considered as evidence of notability." For some reason this person has a lot of interviews, sources are choosing to pay attention to them, even if individually some interviews are "merely quoting" blocks of text as a whole they might show a different picture. --
GreenC16:15, 30 August 2022 (UTC)reply
I ask the closer to allow at least one extra day, I started a bit of organizing and located an image on commons, submitted for ARS help as well.
Lightburst (
talk)
15:17, 30 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: One more go? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (
投稿)
22:00, 30 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete If we can truly base an entire BLP article solely on stuff written by the subject themselves, then im going to create my own website, write whatever i want, then create an article on Wikipedia describing me as the best person to ever exist, and solely reference it to my own website.
Handmeanotherbagofthemchips (
talk)
14:36, 31 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete Willing to reconsider if he ever publishes again but currently does not pass
WP:NAUTHOR. At this time, it seems like he is quoted as somebody knowledgeable on Northern Thai cuisine but nothing present is able to pass
WP:NJOURNALIST. --
BriefEdits (
talk)
00:44, 4 September 2022 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Does not meet
WP:GNG. Lack of in-depth independent coverage. The sources are all articles written by him, or are completely or primarily interviews, or very minor mentions.
MB05:34, 8 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment: The coverage in Time Out
[1], BK Magazine
[2], Thailand Insider
[3], Splendid Table
[4] and CNN
[5] are primarily about him or his views on northern Thai cuisine, but they're all interviews. All of them do include introductory material in the writer's voice, but they're not exactly in-depth. There's a lot of mention of his book, but not much in terms of reviews by established publications. The New York Times' recommendation
[6] isn't a dedicated review, so it probably doesn't count towards
WP:AUTHOR. Thai-language sources are mostly about his exhibitions.
[7][8][9] --
Paul_012 (
talk)
10:46, 12 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Weak keep: The author's views and works have received substantial coverage in prominent secondary sources. But I also conceded that most of them are completely or primarily interviews.--
IndyNotes (
talk)
17:29, 23 August 2022 (UTC)reply
There is no policy or guideline that says that. The best we have is an essay
WP:INTERVIEW and it has a section for Notability
Wikipedia:Interviews#Notability which says "if the material the interviewer brought to the table is secondary and independent, [it] contributes to the claim that the subject has met the requirements laid out in the general notability guideline." One has to look at the type of interview and gauge it. For example
Time Out is "merely quoting" blocks of text with little added by the journalist. Same with BK Magazine and Thailand Insider. Splendid Table and CNN are less clear as the journalist is more involved making commentary or responding to what the person said. The other thing is the essay says "A multitude of interviews with a breadth of styles shows a wide range of attention being given to the subject and can be considered as evidence of notability." For some reason this person has a lot of interviews, sources are choosing to pay attention to them, even if individually some interviews are "merely quoting" blocks of text as a whole they might show a different picture. --
GreenC16:15, 30 August 2022 (UTC)reply
I ask the closer to allow at least one extra day, I started a bit of organizing and located an image on commons, submitted for ARS help as well.
Lightburst (
talk)
15:17, 30 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: One more go? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (
投稿)
22:00, 30 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete If we can truly base an entire BLP article solely on stuff written by the subject themselves, then im going to create my own website, write whatever i want, then create an article on Wikipedia describing me as the best person to ever exist, and solely reference it to my own website.
Handmeanotherbagofthemchips (
talk)
14:36, 31 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete Willing to reconsider if he ever publishes again but currently does not pass
WP:NAUTHOR. At this time, it seems like he is quoted as somebody knowledgeable on Northern Thai cuisine but nothing present is able to pass
WP:NJOURNALIST. --
BriefEdits (
talk)
00:44, 4 September 2022 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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