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The result was delete. Clearly not notable on the basis of GNG. There is some discussion about whether WP:ARTIST-based notability exists, but there isn't a consensus on this and most people did not address it. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 09:55, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
Auksė Miliukaitė
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Can a qualified user continue this process for me? I've looked at the sources cited in the article, and searched Google books and generally online, and there just doesn't seem to be anything justifying this individual as the subject of an article. The fact that the lead specifies her to be "emerging" is borne out by the fact that she doesn't seem to have done anything that would make her really "notable" per the Wikipedia:Notability (people) guidelines. The only real achievements presented are that she had an exhibition at the Rooster Gallery, Vilnius, which is specifically for young Lithuanian artists that aren't established, and won a minor prize (unnamed) in 2007, since when it doesn't seem she's increased in notability at all. The other sites cited seem to be all based on the "young artists that may be big in the future" (collectgoodstuff.com claims to be "an inspiring platform and marketplace with a curated selection of emerging artists, new talents and unique art-related products. Our mission is to discover promising talents, work with outstanding artists on new collaborations and provide collectors with compelling artistic contents", i.e. promotion of works for their art sales site; art-bites.com gives a very similar spiel); since she hasn't yet reached that stage, nor is there any particular reason to assume that she definitely will, it seems to be putting the cart considerably before the horse to give her an article, certainly at this point. Thank you. 78.144.65.128 ( talk) 20:30, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete the article is largely sourced by gallery and event entries. A search found a private collection, some promotional sites and an interview. While there might be more in Lithuanian, the sources I have seen in English do not establish even weak notability. ThatMontrealIP ( talk) 23:25, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete when someone is called "emerging" that generally means they are not yet notable. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 14:58, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete none of the sources establish notability; the fact that most are online galleries that sell work by the artist is suspect. Perhaps worth noting: this is one of several articles on "emerging" Lithuanian artists created by User:Gaidziukas in 2017 which have flown under the radar, all of which share the same low-quality sources: /info/en/?search=Special:Contributions/Gaidziukas RBWhitney12 ( talk) 21:32, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - While her works in the MO Museum, I can't find any records of her having works in other major collections and I only found one piece of press coverage ( "Trips to a secret painting island: a conversation with painter Auksė Miliukaitė" from the Lithuania Tribune). Appears it is WP:TOOSOON for artist. I wonder why an IP nominated this - sort of strange. Missvain ( talk) 21:51, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete I did a WP:BEFORE and couldn't find enough to establish that Miliukaitė passes WP:GNG. Best, GPL93 ( talk) 22:31, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - Not enough to establish notability. I thought the ArtNews-Italy might be interesting, but it turns out to be a press release not SIGCOV. Netherzone ( talk) 20:26, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. I think her inclusion in both the MO Museum [1] (above) and in the Lewben Art Foundation [2] is enough for WP:ARTIST 4(d). We don't actually have an article on the Lewben Art Foundation but nevertheless they appear to be notable, which is what 4(d) requires. — David Eppstein ( talk) 08:19, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
- @ David Eppstein:, I was ready to be swayed so I checked the Lewben Foundation out. Its information is hosted on the Lewben group site, a company " an integrated business services group whose companies provide their clients with asset and wealth management services". It seems to be a private collection housed in a company, which is not the exactly the same as a notable museum or gallery mentioned in WP:ARTIST 4 d). In face, it was only in 2015 that they decided to " present to the public for the first time part of (their) collection of contemporary international artists", at an art fair in Vilnius. I do see some other shows they have lent art to. In the end though it is a private collection; these have variable standards, based on how well they are staffed. Not sure about that one. ThatMontrealIP ( talk) 19:07, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete art-bites.com is a website whose "primary concerns are to nurture and push our artists into new opportunities". It is owned and operated by The Rooster Gallery.galerija101.lt, I think, is the same as https://www.vdu.lt/en/about-vmu/cultural-activities/vmu-art-spaces-and-museums/gallery-101/ a university gallery. Since it's an interview and published by the gallery where she exhibited, it is not an independent source.7md.lt is an interview about a group of three painters that include Miliukaitė, but besides a number of images of her work, doesn't discuss her. The introduction mentions that the three are "still unknown".roostergallery.eu, per its own website: "represents the youngest generation." artnews.lt appears to be a press release for an exhibition at the Vytautas Magnus University Art Gallery 101 mentioned above, in 2013, when Miliukaitė was still in school. In summary, I see no significant coverage in independent, reliable sources, and and artist who is still very much at the beginning of her career. It's too soon for an article. Vexations ( talk) 15:25, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:TOOSOON - this is admittedly an "emerging" young artist. No independent coverage. Bearian ( talk) 20:09, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Clearly not notable on the basis of GNG. There is some discussion about whether WP:ARTIST-based notability exists, but there isn't a consensus on this and most people did not address it. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 09:55, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
Auksė Miliukaitė
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Can a qualified user continue this process for me? I've looked at the sources cited in the article, and searched Google books and generally online, and there just doesn't seem to be anything justifying this individual as the subject of an article. The fact that the lead specifies her to be "emerging" is borne out by the fact that she doesn't seem to have done anything that would make her really "notable" per the Wikipedia:Notability (people) guidelines. The only real achievements presented are that she had an exhibition at the Rooster Gallery, Vilnius, which is specifically for young Lithuanian artists that aren't established, and won a minor prize (unnamed) in 2007, since when it doesn't seem she's increased in notability at all. The other sites cited seem to be all based on the "young artists that may be big in the future" (collectgoodstuff.com claims to be "an inspiring platform and marketplace with a curated selection of emerging artists, new talents and unique art-related products. Our mission is to discover promising talents, work with outstanding artists on new collaborations and provide collectors with compelling artistic contents", i.e. promotion of works for their art sales site; art-bites.com gives a very similar spiel); since she hasn't yet reached that stage, nor is there any particular reason to assume that she definitely will, it seems to be putting the cart considerably before the horse to give her an article, certainly at this point. Thank you. 78.144.65.128 ( talk) 20:30, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete the article is largely sourced by gallery and event entries. A search found a private collection, some promotional sites and an interview. While there might be more in Lithuanian, the sources I have seen in English do not establish even weak notability. ThatMontrealIP ( talk) 23:25, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete when someone is called "emerging" that generally means they are not yet notable. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 14:58, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete none of the sources establish notability; the fact that most are online galleries that sell work by the artist is suspect. Perhaps worth noting: this is one of several articles on "emerging" Lithuanian artists created by User:Gaidziukas in 2017 which have flown under the radar, all of which share the same low-quality sources: /info/en/?search=Special:Contributions/Gaidziukas RBWhitney12 ( talk) 21:32, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - While her works in the MO Museum, I can't find any records of her having works in other major collections and I only found one piece of press coverage ( "Trips to a secret painting island: a conversation with painter Auksė Miliukaitė" from the Lithuania Tribune). Appears it is WP:TOOSOON for artist. I wonder why an IP nominated this - sort of strange. Missvain ( talk) 21:51, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete I did a WP:BEFORE and couldn't find enough to establish that Miliukaitė passes WP:GNG. Best, GPL93 ( talk) 22:31, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - Not enough to establish notability. I thought the ArtNews-Italy might be interesting, but it turns out to be a press release not SIGCOV. Netherzone ( talk) 20:26, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. I think her inclusion in both the MO Museum [1] (above) and in the Lewben Art Foundation [2] is enough for WP:ARTIST 4(d). We don't actually have an article on the Lewben Art Foundation but nevertheless they appear to be notable, which is what 4(d) requires. — David Eppstein ( talk) 08:19, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
- @ David Eppstein:, I was ready to be swayed so I checked the Lewben Foundation out. Its information is hosted on the Lewben group site, a company " an integrated business services group whose companies provide their clients with asset and wealth management services". It seems to be a private collection housed in a company, which is not the exactly the same as a notable museum or gallery mentioned in WP:ARTIST 4 d). In face, it was only in 2015 that they decided to " present to the public for the first time part of (their) collection of contemporary international artists", at an art fair in Vilnius. I do see some other shows they have lent art to. In the end though it is a private collection; these have variable standards, based on how well they are staffed. Not sure about that one. ThatMontrealIP ( talk) 19:07, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete art-bites.com is a website whose "primary concerns are to nurture and push our artists into new opportunities". It is owned and operated by The Rooster Gallery.galerija101.lt, I think, is the same as https://www.vdu.lt/en/about-vmu/cultural-activities/vmu-art-spaces-and-museums/gallery-101/ a university gallery. Since it's an interview and published by the gallery where she exhibited, it is not an independent source.7md.lt is an interview about a group of three painters that include Miliukaitė, but besides a number of images of her work, doesn't discuss her. The introduction mentions that the three are "still unknown".roostergallery.eu, per its own website: "represents the youngest generation." artnews.lt appears to be a press release for an exhibition at the Vytautas Magnus University Art Gallery 101 mentioned above, in 2013, when Miliukaitė was still in school. In summary, I see no significant coverage in independent, reliable sources, and and artist who is still very much at the beginning of her career. It's too soon for an article. Vexations ( talk) 15:25, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:TOOSOON - this is admittedly an "emerging" young artist. No independent coverage. Bearian ( talk) 20:09, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
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